The magic is gone. I've told this story here before but in 2016 I took my younger twin brothers to Barcelona on Friday. Arrived when the (V8!) F2 cars were on track and after that F1 came...not long into that they asked me when the cool cars would join again. They were 10 years old at the time. Sound captivates the audience. There's a reason why at music festivals/concerts whatever you want to call it, the volume is turned up properly.
Big auto companies have limp noodles because the stickers they put on the side of Formula 1 cars don't align with the garbage they sell to the public. I do understand the investment's already put in, and that is 100% at fault to the FIA. This late proposal is typical horrible management from the FIA. The fans of F1 will continue to suffer so the rich folks running the show can wipe their butts with 100s instead of 20s.
I completely agree. It's baffling how logic and simple things are needed to run stuff, yet somehow, humans always find ways to complicate things.
Leclerc delivers damning verdict on new F1 rules ahead of key V10 talks | RacingNews365 Verstappen wants V10 engines back in Formula 1 Leclerc and Verstappen have their say
Thats nice but Honda, Mercedes and Audi dont really care and are going to say No to the FIA dictator. The only question is what compromises are made for the near future before 2031. Im not at all worried about the motors. The aero and brakes need changing for 'better racing' if we ever do have it.
The loudest change voice is RedBull from this and Ive been told the same by others. Both Ferrari and RedBull appear to lack the confidence in their PU development. V10's are a nice distracting idea. I personally see a different compromise at some point. M-Be Dicatator-S has clearly had his ear bent over time to offer this lol. Most likely he takes the last advice given to him LOL! He is beyond a joke. He is not helping F1 or any other motorsport category. What pathetic idea will he have next and when will Liberty park him in his little box to avoid further idiocy? https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cql66wv234go - Former CEO breaks silence on FIA's 'serious challenges' --Ben Sulayem heads to Bahrain this weekend hoping to convince the sport's engine manufacturers to back his plan to abandon the 2026 engine rules early and switch to naturally aspirated V10s run on sustainable fuel as soon as possible. There appears to be no hope of Ben Sulayem succeeding in this ambition. To be approved, his plan would need the support of four of the five 2026 engine manufacturers. And while Ferrari and Red Bull are in favour, Mercedes, Honda and Audi are not. The most likely outcome of Friday's meeting of the FIA, F1 and the engine manufacturers is an agreement to keep talking on the future direction of engines in the sport. But Honda, Mercedes and Audi are all wedded to the idea of some hybrid element in the future, and there appears to be no prospect of this changing. Ben Sulayem has not explained why he is so keen to change F1's engine formula, although it is known that there is widespread concern within the sport about the new engine rules and their potential effect on racing. After all, it is only two years since he was proclaiming the 2026 rules a great success that had attracted Audi and Ford to F1 and persuaded Honda to stay when it had been planning to withdraw. He has also been instrumental in General Motors' 2026 entry with its Cadillac brand. The strategic reasoning behind the move is also hard to fathom. Although it is known that Ben Sulayem has been listening to former F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone - a long-time opponent of hybrid engines - on the matter, and that Red Bull team principal Christian Horner is also a key proponent.-- Why Ecclestone's views are considered relevant eight years after he was ousted as F1 CEO is also unknown. Mercedes, Audi and Honda were never likely to agree to abandoning an electrical component to engines, so Ben Sulayem was always likely to face defeat on his plan.
I'm very worried for the new engines because of the way they operate. They'll essentially be generators for the batteries. Imagine hearing/seeing cars go round slow corners yet at very high RPM, an RPM that doesn't really fluctuate because it's charging a battery....It'll sound stupid and drive stupid. I don't believe the 2026 aero regulations are going to be beneficial either. I was under NO illusion that the engines would be changed for 2026 as the current manufacturers are too far in developing the engines and even IF they agreed, that would leave Audi without an engine (by extending current V6 till 2028). Manufacturers have rejected it for now, but it won't be long into the 2026 regs that crisis meetings will be held.
2026 is going to suck. Can’t wait for the Chevy Volt revolution! The only way this is changed is if we stop throwing our support or the sport. But there is too much money
yup Terrible engine Extreme DRS front and rear that can be activated at any time (no need to be behind someone...it's done so they can have some top speed) lower weight that they'll be unlikely to even reach almost certainly a huge disparity between manufacturers. Think 2014 but significantly worse. I wish nothing but the worst for the manufacturers that wanted this engine, and the complete and utter idiots that voted for the regulations.
Interest in F1 is at or near its peak right now, the DTS F1 fans will drift away in search of the Next Big Thing. Longtime F1 fans may just give up(and we thought that the first Hybrid formula was bad). Liberty should unload this turkey before next season.
--F1 looks set to adopt a series of rules concessions for 2026 aimed at alleviating concerns about the new engine regulations, The Race has learned, with a V10 switch now off the table until at least 2029--
Well, after the Bahrain meeting with the manufacturers, 2026 regs are set. Beyond that(2028 or 2029), it's still up in the air. 2026 goes 60% endothermic with 40% electric.
BBC Sports source F1 bosses reject V10 engine return Formula 1 bosses have rejected a proposal to reintroduce V10 naturally aspirated engines in the near future. In a meeting on Friday, F1, governing body the FIA and the engine manufacturers agreed that the sport was committed to the revised hybrid engine rules that start next year. FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem has been pushing behind the scenes the idea of abandoning the new rules before the end of their five-year cycle and switching to naturally aspirated V10s powered by sustainable fuels. But the majority of car manufacturers involved in F1 preferred to stick with the new rules and made clear their commitment to hybrid power.
Why not turn F2 into what F1 should be--V10s with sustainable fuel, limited aero etc. Let the manufacturers rule F1 and drive it into the ground.
Yeah, they're not concerned about 2028 or 2029 at the moment so the V10 debate is still up in the air. They're primarily focused on the 2026 regs for now.
Any change of engine formula requires long term planning, and also the support of most teams. No wonder Ben Sulayem's proposal was given a rejected. He thinks the constructors can pull V10s out of a hat !! The FIA cannot decide on the hoof what engine for 2028/2009.
Yes exactly. And this is what I've been warning against for years now: F1 risks alienating both audiences, leaving them with zero. They are arrogant and stupid if they think it can't happen.
If the interest fades away, I think F1 could shrink a bit; becoming less business like, and more of a sport. Probably less exposure, less money to go round, and less races would come too. There will always be a hardcore of supporters to keep it alive, IMO. Other sports have followed that path and are still around ...
Yes... but the funny thing is, the big manufacturers F1 is so keen on pleasing, will then shy away To which I say...good riddance as I've had absolutely had enough of them and their idiotic demands...and F1 is more the fool to bend over backwards for them.
The FIA will keep the World Championship rights, and still administer them after the commercial decline of the sport, if it happens. Which series they will choose is another matter. It cannot be a specs series since there is also a title for constructors. IMO, something on the format of a Formula 2+ would be enough, with the garagists taking over the constructors. F1 low-cost could be several chassis builders supplying the teams, with choice of engines, and only one aero change allowed mid-season.
If the FIA said F U to everyone and just said we are running V10s like it or not, I guarantee big manufacturers would still put their sticker on the cars. Being in F1 as a brand is far bigger marketing than the fake story that F1 is a development path to their road car technology.
