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  1. ferrari169

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  2. Caeruleus11

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    I think it will be an interesting concept to see how they execute. I always thought there is a stronger market than what we have seen for the FF at a lower price- there are enthusiasts who would like such a car but the price scared them off. I just wonder if Ferrari should make two variants of their 4 seat GT. What will the advantage of the V12 be then? Just more power? It has to be more than that to justify the price.
     
  3. RickLederman

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    :D you gotta be kidding, simply NO. Drive a V12 and you will sell EVERYTHING to get that sound. I've said it before, never, and I mean never take an FF out for a drive. Between the power and most importantly the sound you will be hooked forever.

    I drive my California on days that the top must be down, or on days that there is a significant threat of hail, otherwise it is the FF. The sound! (And the power too I guess :)) An FF with a V8 would need eight turbos and would sound like a Porsche, YUK.

    Rick
     
  4. Noblesse Oblige

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    Ditto. There is nothing like the sound and smoothness of the 12. "Nothing even comes close."
     
  5. dcmetro

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    I agree with taz.

    FF V8 TT ?? Let's save some $$ and buy a RS7
     
  6. crinoid

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    V12 makes the car.
     
  7. SSR

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    V8 FF wakkk!!!
     
  8. qwertstnbir

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  9. JasonSpidey

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    I've been following Automobile Magazine's "future forecasts" for years now. They're wrong more often than they're right. For example, they've been claiming for years that, any day now, Mercedes-Benz is gonna go back to the straight-six engine. Hasn't happened, not likely to happen.

    You can tell from a journalistic standpoint that Kacher is working from the flimsiest of sources. Traditionally, when reporting on this sort of thing, a journalist should provide some sort of attribution for the statements he's making. "Sources at Ferrari say..." "Rumor has it..." etc. Or at least use the conditional tense ("Ferrari's next 458 could use a twin-turbo V8..."). Kacher does none of these things.

    My gut says that article is mostly well-educated guesses based on a handful of conversations about hypothetical courses of action, but presented as fact in order to grab attention. There's a reason car journalists refer to Automobile as "the People Magazine of automotive journalism."
     
  10. MalibuGuy

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    Hi Rick! Was wondering if you also drove the F12? If so what did you think of that V12 vs the FF?
     
  11. RickLederman

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    No experience in an F12 ... yet :) ... hopefully some day!

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  12. Noblesse Oblige

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    FF v. F12: Very different. F12 has more torque at all speeds and is more nimble because of its lighter weight and smaller size. The FF has a combination of refinement, comfort, and performance that is unique in my experience, and you can take it pretty much anywhere. They both have THE sound.
     
  13. MalibuGuy

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    Great insight into the dynamic characteristics of these two cars. Thanks!
     
  14. crazyblack

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    Mercedes-Benz returns to straight-six engines with next e-class in 2016.
     
  15. mr_tony

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    #15 mr_tony, Jun 22, 2014
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    Pure speculation.
    A 4 seat v8 coupe will be a Maserati not a Ferrari....
     
  16. mik458spider

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    I think the 458 sounds better than FF.
    I know the V12 sounds better, like F12, especially 599 GTO or hyper version like Enzo, LaFerrari, etc; but not the FF. I have driven hard both 458 and FF.
     
  17. Noblesse Oblige

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    Sound quality is subjective. To my ears my 458 sounds like a bear. My FF sounds like a wolf.
     
  18. ferrari169

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    Based on my experience driving an FF, I would never want a V8 version. I "get" what the sound is all about. Nothing like it, and words cannot describe.
     
  19. Cayman6616

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    have you considered replacing the ff and cali with f12? then you get a much better looking car than both and also with v12? isn't that perfect?
     
  20. jumpinjohn

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    Not if you have kids you want to bring along...

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  21. YAMVS6

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    V8FF might be interesting..prob rear wheel drive as well
     
  22. DK308

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    Why would they change from the AWD system to an RWD system? The AWD on the FF works very well, and taking into consideration what the car was made to do, it's probably the best solution to stick with it. V8 vs. V12 in the next adaptation. I think they will look at a V8 as a major step back. Besides, there's a history of all large GT Ferraris being V12. It was also a very strong selling point for a car that was as polarizing as the FF were when it was launched.

    My guess. It will evolve with updates and new models, but they'll stick to the formula i.e, AWD+V12 for as long as they can make V12s.

    My o2.
     
  23. LARRYH

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    What's next a V8 F12..
    If they are selling all the cars they want to then why do the V8 FF ...?
    I thought they cut production last year intentionally ..
     
  24. Noblesse Oblige

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    Hard to see a market for a "lesser" FF -- less cylinders, less flexibility, and I suppose less $$$$. And the cheaper price would itself be a problem since it would detract from the full blown FF. Ferrari doesn't do cheap versions of its big efforts.
     
  25. keithos27

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    Does seem skeptical... if production globally is set to say 7K cars, and if this would cannibalize sales of the V12 FF, doesn't seem to make sense. If it replaces the current FF for less $$$ than maybe. I understand Ferrari making cars more practical to a certain extent but I hope they still keep production capped... Not looking to dilute the brand more.
     

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