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  1. VEEP

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    So, one for the paint specialists...:

    Ferrari had Verde Germoglio in 1967. I understand the pale green 250 GTO is that color. There were also 3 Daytona`s sold in that color. Now the Dino 246 and the 308 had Verde Germoglio as option too around 1975, Bonhams sold the one and only vertroresina 308 GTB in that shade some years ago. But that Verde Germoglio is more lime green than the more pale color on the GTO and Daytona... So who can help me out. My paint shop does not find the color in the database..
    So I have no possibility to convert to new colorcodes...
    The only code I find is 20-G-465, but that seem to be two different shades...??
    so ...: Help!
     
  2. JazzyO

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    #2 JazzyO, Nov 8, 2011
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    No it's not.

    This dino is Verde Germoglio. #3505 is another colour, to my knowledge not a Ferrari colour. It's much paler.


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  3. VEEP

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    yes ok, but the daytona`s were much paler than the 246 too... Morte like the GTO, of which I in the menatime understand its no Ferraricolor but a color chosen by the British racing Partnership .so now we have three different colors. I would like to know the color of the Daytona`s in pale green. The 246 and 308 is as above, but that one I don`t like, the daytona color I do like..I understand now after some more research that it was named verde profilo, but I cannot find that anywhere...
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    #4 Marcel Massini, Nov 8, 2011
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    There is no such thing as Verde Profilo. Doesn't exist.

    The 250 GTO 3505 GT is NOT Verde Germoglio, no relation at all.

    Yes, there were originally three 365 GTB/4 Scaglietti Berlinettas in Verde Germoglio.

    Here are pix of a Verde Germoglio 246 Dino GT and a 308 GTB Vetroresina.

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  5. VEEP

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    thanks, I know them, but thats a different shade than the Daytona`s, or at least the one daytona I saw on pictures . There came the possibility of the Verde Profilo from. So I need the recipe of the Daytona shade..not of the 246/308 one.

    That the GTO is a different shade, not an original Ferrari color I allready stated myself above by the way.

    So my one and only question now is: what shade or mixture is the Daytona Verde Germoglio??
     
  6. michael platzer

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    there is no "Daytona Verde Germoglio". Verde Germoglio is always the same, Dino, Daytona, 308 or whatever.
    Maybe you saw a different shade of green on a daytona.
    Do you have a pic?
     
  7. Marcel Massini

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    PLEASE indicate the chassis number of the Daytona you are talking about.
    Thank you.

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  8. Marcel Massini

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    Three Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Berlinettas were originally painted in Verde Germoglio.
    All three had the color code 20-G-465.
    All three were U.S. versions.
    All three were originally delivered new to official U.S. West Coast importer MCM Modern Classic Motors in Reno, NV/USA (owned by William Fisk Harrah, the casino mogul at the time).

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  9. VEEP

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  11. Marcel Massini

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    This for sure is NOT Verde Germoglio.
    This is a pure fantasy color. No relation whatsoever. A clear repaint.
    Why don't you just ask that dealer? And how about the chassis number?
    As they state that car wasn't even born Verde Germoglio but rather some sort of burgundy.

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  12. VEEP

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    yes ok, but that is not my question.... which color is it then??
    That it is not one of the three originla ones the seller confirmes in his ad by the way.

    So please tell me something I/we allready don`t know, the color it is?!

    Emailed Al of ALSA in the UK, maybe he can/will help to shine some light and add to the knowledge here, that is apperently stuck in this question. Or maybe someone that was involved knows. Is it true that the Daytona could be made in 137 different colourchoices? and if, has someone a list of them?
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    May I suggest AGAIN that YOU ask the dealer/seller? Or find out who did the repaint?
    They will then be able to answer your question.

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  14. JazzyO

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    #14 JazzyO, Nov 9, 2011
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    The only thing I have is this pic of Scaglietti colours from the 1960's. Your mystery colour is not on there (except that the colour of the cover plate looks very much like it! :)). I have not come across that colour before, but I realise that doesn't prove anything.



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  15. silver1331

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    If this was not an original ferrari factory color (which it appears it is not) than no one will be able to give you the name for it. Its possible its from another make from the 50s or 60s or just a custom blend. If the repaint was intended to be verde germoglio they did a poor job matching...
     
  16. VEEP

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  17. Marcel Massini

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    They did not.
    Ask the dealer and/or the painter who did that Daytona.

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  18. VEEP

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    ok, but then what is your opinion on the color found on the red Daytona? deliverd new with a special color? The owner who restorde the car 14251 says himself its the original color, and states it is Verde Germoglio. ??? i am getting more and more confused now.
     
  19. Marcel Massini

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    14251 is the second of only three Daytonas originally painted Verde Germoglio 20-G-465.

    Do not judge from poor photos taken of cars that have been overpainted.

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  20. Lars Theunissen

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    Hi Marcel,

    Would you be willing to tell the s/ns of the other two as well please?

    Thanks & ciao,

    Lars T.
     
  21. Zarathustra

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    The ad says this car was originally Rosso Rubino and someone painted the car in its (questionable) green. This dealer may call the color "Germoglio,' but I prefer "Bile."
     
  22. Marcel Massini

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    I call it "Pure Fantasy".
    35 Daytonas were originally painted Rosso Rubino 106-R-12.

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    Does anyone know the serial numbers of the Dino and 308 that are depicted in Germoglio in this thread?
     
  24. Marcel Massini

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    01674 and 19275.

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    Very nice, thank you.

    The former is ex-Bob Turner of Los Gatos, and the car was still Germoglio as recently as June, 2009. The latter ex-Lepeltier, last seen at Bonham's Gstaad auction in 2003 (lot 251).
     

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