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  1. bernardo66

    bernardo66 The Crazy Cat Man
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    As I was returning home in the red car from Home Depot with the wife, three kids on their bikes accosted me and told me "nice car mister" After which one of the kids pull out a (toy) gun and tell me "give me your car or I'll kill you." Needless to say I was flabbergasted!!!!! I answered him: "Kid, that's not the solution. All that gun will get you is jail time or an early death."

    Call me naive, but I found that simple gesture of pointing a toy gun to a stranger very disturbing. Where do these kids pick it up? Do they actually think that violence is the answer? That you only accomplish (or acquire) things through threats?

    Am I being too simple-minded (or naive) about this?
     
  2. justhrowit

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    Not sure how to take this! I cant imagine the kid being serious. He obviously wasn't since it was only a toy. However...I don't think he realized the seriousness of what he said. It was a joke to him. real life hasn't quite set in on him and to some people that's more serious than he thought.
     
  3. bernardo66

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    Understood, then again...when I was a kid I would never have dreamth about (jokingly) point a toy gun at a total stranger and demaning his car, or I would kill him.
     
  4. FarmerDave

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    When I was old enough to have toy guns, my father told me never to point it at anyone, at all, ever, and if he ever saw me do it he'd never teach me how to shoot a real one.

    So I see two issues: piss-poor parenting, and the fact that most kids today have no concept of what a real gun is and how to properly use it.
     
  5. amenasce

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    You did the right think. Kids these days think its great to be a gangster a thug etc..

    He probably wont care that much about what you told him but it was the right thing to do.
     
  6. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Down here that's considered a terrorist threat. Call the cops and they'd be in big trouble. Maybe that would scare a little sense into them.
     
  7. thecarreaper

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    sorry to read what happened. here he would have been in jail. i have a permit to carry a concealed firearm. though it would not have been needed in this situation, you should have called the police and had them scare some sense in the kids while there is still time.

    not everybody is scared when someone pulls a gun on them. you better damn well be prepared to use it, or you will eat one end of it one way or the other. :)
     
  8. CMY

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    Toy gun aside, what disturbs me more than anything is the thinking that this kid demonstrates.. Want something you can't afford? Just take it by force and at all costs.

    C.
     
  9. pete04222

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    I think a lot of it is the video games. Grand Theft Auto. You want a fast car, you find one, punch out the driver and take it. These games have a rating. I think some parents are letting their kids play it when they are at an impressionable age and can't quite fully differentiate between real life and fantasy. "Oh, it's just a game." I think the "game" might influence decisions they make in real life.

    Of course, I don't know crap, that's just what we believe on the planet I come from.
     
  10. DGS

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    You have to be 25 to be in Congress: it's not just kids that can't tell the difference. ;)
     
  11. bernardo66

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    BINGO!!!!!!!!
     
  12. beast

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    We are no longer teaching children the value of working hard to earn something that they want, instead we end up spoiling them rotten. Take a look at youth sports every kid gets a trophy and a lot of the parents ask the coaches to stop keeping score. What kind of message does that send.

    The bigest thing as of late is the profesional teachers org. is looking at getting rid of the letter grade "F" instead calling it "Defered Success" at lest the "DS" on the report card will be correct. Except it should be called "Dumb ****" of "Dip ****". It wont be long before a student can graduate with straight DS's.

    This "Up with people mentality" is the true down fall of this country :(
     
  13. amslb182

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    That really is a scary thing but lets not blame it all on the video games now. I've had every Grand theft auto since the game was originally introduced for the first playstation console. And while these games are violent they can not be solely blamed for this incident of the behavior of kids. I feel that it's the parenting or lack thereof. My father too told me never to point a gun at anyone whether it was a toy or not. That is a very important lesson to learn.

    Kids also have to learn some freakin respect for their elders. I cant imagine even jokingly pulling a toy gun on someone and demading their car, even though i've done it hundreds of times in videogames.

    If this had happend to me i would have called the cops just so they could scare some sence into those kids.

    And the worst thing is this happend in CANADA, what hope does that give us US citizens. NOT MUCH
     
  14. normhuff

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    Coulda been more a case of him doing something/anything stupid to show off in front of the other two kids. People tend to exhibit more 'questionable' behaviors like this when they're part of a group or gang. I'd be more flabbergasted about the matter if he was alone and said something like this. Then the kid really would be a mental case...
     
  15. amslb182

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    And that gradind thing is a sach of $h1t. Kids need to learn failure and need to know when they need to work harder at something, and realize when they cant do something as well as someone else.
     
  16. Dave328

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    I would send that kid to the same "farm" that parents bring the old family pets so they can run around and be happy forever!

    Dave
     
  17. Z0RR0

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    Pull out a real gun and kill him. :D

    At some point, he sould grow up and realize being a gangsta isn't cool. What can you do?
     
  18. SefacHotRodder

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    Same here
     
  19. bernardo66

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    IMO, it's a case of this kid acting stupid in front of his friends, and I agree that it would have really been distrubing had he played that joke alone.
     
  20. Schatten

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    I was taught the same, but only ventured out into the shooting range with a friend and his dad. But the baby-sitter (aka - television) has come into affect the MTV (post-music) generation.

    Quite a sad situation.

    Did the father overhear it? or care?
     
  21. darth550

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    Bernardo. I think the ears of the mouse in your avatar look like tits and I find it rather offensive!
     
  22. Z0RR0

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    Remember we're in Montreal here ... by guns, all we understand is big boobs.
    No one carries a gun, except cops and biker-gang members ...

    There is no concept of a real gun, let alone using a gun, it just doesn't exist ...
     
  23. TestShoot

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    I have been shot twice in the left arm. I do not play with toy guns or joke about it.

    Once, I was in a friend's paintball shop in El Toro when a guy pointed a rather real looking armalite airsoft at me and told me to give him my wallet. I punched the kid and knocked out a tooth. I told him if he ever f^cking did that to anybody ever again, I would find him and finish the job. Luckily the manager of the shop backed me up when the cops arrived.

    Roll hard and for real, or not at all, being a thug ain't a joke or a game only a child thinks it is, and being a child, their parents should get beaten up for not knowing their kids are ***********

    edit: I carry my .45 eveyplace I go.
     
  24. FarmerDave

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    Exactly!
     
  25. bernardo66

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    Aw come on!!! Hashimoto Mouse? Offensive?
     

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