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  1. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    Does anyone know the answer to the following question:

    exactly which seams on the resina 308's have black sealer over the paint please? I have attempted a search on fchat, but found nothing conclusive. I know the rear buttress seams & tops of the front wings should be sealed over, but should the top of the windscreen pillar, upper sill seams (where they sit below the rear quarter & lower front wing panels) and the sill seam in the door shut (at the bottom of the B post) be sealed also?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Best regards, Peter
     
  2. MS250

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    all i see on my car is on the bottom of the front windshield both sides to where the hood (fenders) are the black ....on top where the roof line is i dont see any black...might be underneath the paint, but it does not expose. I can only presume this is correct as my car still has the original paint.
     
  3. CliffBeer

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    What's "vetroresina"? Does that mean you have a fiberglass body?

    I guess that means everyone else has a "Acciaio" 308. Or, we could just use English and say "steel" body, but maybe that doesn't sound fancy enough....
     
  4. AZDoug

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    My half assed Latin etymology fuzzy logic tells me that probably translates into glass resin, or as we say fiberglass, unless it is Owen Corning Fiberglas(TM). :)

    Doug
     
  5. Papa G

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    In Europe, that's how the fiberglass 308's are called.
     
  6. Marcel Massini

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    In ITALY actually, to be a bit more precise.

    Marcel Massini
     
  7. Papa G

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    I stand corrected ;)
     
  8. Paul_308

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    Vetroresina is a more descriptive technical term which fully explains the material and has a melodic sound. "I met the beautiful Vetroresina on Capri."

    Glass reinforced plastic, as it was initially called, was too long for those outside the industry to say, as was fiberglass reinforced polyester and fiberglass reinforced epoxy.

    The process replaced the cotton reinforced textile-phenolic resin or bakelite process when two part plastics were born.

    Half the world now speaks English and the US is finally getting there.
     
  9. f308jack

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    Peter,

    I cannot answer your question totally, but maybe there's some information in the following:

    In the early eighties, a friend from Amsterdam, Albert Lauw, bought a argento/red vetroresina from Germany (owner also had a NART spyder). The car was used, but at some 24.000kms and absolutely original.
    We went over the car and he actually pointed out to me 2 points of weakness in the glass body: the point where the front fenders meet the A-pillars (NO gunk) and the lip of the decklid, cracking from shutting it.
    Unfortunately I don't have the chassis number of the car, as we might find that this was a recognised problem early in the production, and later examples may have that joint sealed, but this one didn't.

    Cheers,

    Jack.
     
  10. vetroresina

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    Hello Peter,

    all the seams are without paint, just the black sealer as it is. The reason is not chosen from an estetic piont of view but pure practical. Every attached bodypart is prone to move somewhat and paint is not the best way to prevent it and could crack at a certain moment.
    Overpainted seams are obvious repainted because the factory sealed the seams after painting. It would be asking for trouble to do otherwise. (my reference from one who's working at the factory in Maranello)

    By the way, I like the word Vetroresina, as it is Italian, wich is in my modest opinion a perfect way to keep things in perspective as it should be......Italian....like Ferrari.
    Good luck Peter!


    Best regards,

    Marcel
     
  11. bigodino

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    Thanks all, your answers have been very helpful.

    Best, Peter
     
  12. 8valve

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    Except for the Beer drinking guys' response.....:)
     
  13. Birdman

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    I must be a philistine like Cliff because I say Fiberglass too. :)
     

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