VETTEL: Next Big F1 Star? | FerrariChat

VETTEL: Next Big F1 Star?

Discussion in 'F1' started by RP, Jan 19, 2008.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
    Bocahuahua, Florxico
    Full Name:
    Tone Def
    (from autosport

    Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz is convinced that Scuderia Toro Rosso's Sebastian Vettel will be a 'big star' of the future ahead of his first full campaign in Formula One this year.

    Vettel joined Toro Rosso halfway through 2007, and scored a career best fourth place in the Chinese Grand Prix - just one week after throwing away a possible podium finish when he crashed behind the safety car in Japan.

    And having got Vettel released from his commitments with BMW Sauber, where he had been test and reserve driver, so he could join Toro Rosso, Mateschitz thinks the young German has a bright future.

    "Vettel is one of the young guys with extraordinary potential," said Mateschitz. "He is fast, he is intelligent, and he is very interested in the technical side.

    "He has everything it takes to become a big star. And he is "back home" now with us. His future looks brilliant."

    Mateschitz added that he expects Vettel's teammate Sebastien Bourdais to deliver exactly what the team expect of him this year, as Toro Rosso bid to build on a strong end to 2007.

    "Bourdais will come up with the expectations we have set him," explained Mateschitz. "STR can be a solid midfield runner in 2008."





    (We hear the same comments about so many drivers, hard to believe every one. Question, would someone like Vettel be just as good, maybe better, than a Hamilton, if they had a #1 ride in the McLaren? I reserve my final opinion about Hamilton until the end of 2008, maybe even 2009)
     
  2. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    6,820
    Westchester, NY
    Full Name:
    Paul
    I hope in 2 years time he's with Ferrari, you know, in consideration for them being STR's engine supplier...:)
     
  3. Mr Payne

    Mr Payne F1 Rookie

    Jan 8, 2004
    2,878
    Bakersfield, CA
    Full Name:
    Payne
    Vettel might be fast. I'm more interested in Bordais.
     
  4. bjwhite

    bjwhite F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 17, 2006
    4,806
    Seattle, WA
    Full Name:
    Brian White
    He certainly showed that Scott Speed was correct last year....that the car sucked bad. I'm not sure what was going on behind the scenes at that team last year, but it's hard to know if it was caused by Scott's combative attitude (if he even had one...I don't know) or if the team was just imploding around him.

    We'll see this year with the two-Sebastians.
     
  5. wetpet

    wetpet F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    May 3, 2006
    10,210
    his boss says he'll be a star. shocking.
     
  6. veloce92

    veloce92 Formula Junior

    Nov 25, 2007
    289
    Chapel Hill
    Full Name:
    Aussie
    I think with him behind the wheel of an great car with a great team, like Ferrari or McLaren, he could be an amazing driver. With a fourth place finish in an STR car, think what he could do with an amazing car.
     
  7. wetpet

    wetpet F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    May 3, 2006
    10,210
    i don't know. getting six championship points is a lot closer to 0 than to 110.
     
  8. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,611
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Vettel is hugely talented, but I'm not sure he'll be the next big star. That role pertains to Hamilton for the next few years anyway.

    Vettel is incredibly fast, but he does stupid things like crash out in Indy at the first turn or in Japan bumping into his team mate. Compared to Hamilton he has a lot to learn still. Time will tell whether he'll get there or not.

    He is a huge improvement over Scott Gotno_Speed but that ain't sayin' much.
     
  9. Far Out

    Far Out F1 Veteran

    Feb 18, 2007
    9,768
    Stuttgart, Germany
    Full Name:
    Florian
    I think Vettel will have a bright future. He is very fast, he only has to learn from his rookie mistakes .. but keep in mind he's 2 years younger even than Hamilton, he has enough time to learn and improve
     
  10. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,611
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    What's the name of that other young German that might be the next Schumacher? I keep forgetting it. It wasn't Ammermueller, but...
     
  11. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
    Bocahuahua, Florxico
    Full Name:
    Tone Def
    Come one Andreas, Hamilton did just as many stupid things this year as Vettel, may be more. Like losing the WDC when it was already his by just being smart. He didn't exactly wreck his teammate on the track, but he did a heck of a job doing that off the track.
     
  12. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,611
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Hamilton made not a single mistake that cost him the title.

    His team kept him too long out there in China and his team (as the only team) put him on a 3 stop strategy in Brazil. Those two strategic moves by his team cost him the title.

    All his other mistakes wouldn't have mattered for the title chase. E.g. putting his car in neutral in Interlagos didn't throw him back far enough to loose the title. But a 3rd pitstop did.

    Vettel is fast but makes mistakes and I'm more of a believer that great drivers are born as such and not developed (which is also why you and I have a different take on Massa). Senna, Prost, Schumacher, they all didn't learn much driving wise in F1. They honed their strategic skills and their plot making but really not their driving. That's not to say that Vettel couldn't improve, but I'm not yet convinced. With Hami I am. 100%.
     
  13. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    May 12, 2007
    26,826
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    +100
    Leading with 12 points and 20 available in the two remaining races in China and Brazil.

    In other words the team lost him the WDC title in China.
     
  14. Far Out

    Far Out F1 Veteran

    Feb 18, 2007
    9,768
    Stuttgart, Germany
    Full Name:
    Florian
    In which series is he driving? There's a couple of young guys the press likes to call the next Schumacher
     
  15. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,611
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Not sure, might be F3 or something. I believe MS himself called him the next MS.
     
  16. ferraridude615

    ferraridude615 F1 Veteran

    May 4, 2006
    5,836
    Texas
    Nico Hulkenberg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_H%C3%BClkenberg

    He tested for Williams and was faster than Nakajimi and only 4 tenths off Rosberg. WOW
     
  17. Far Out

    Far Out F1 Veteran

    Feb 18, 2007
    9,768
    Stuttgart, Germany
    Full Name:
    Florian
    Oh yes, that might be the guy Andreas is talking about... but I know someone who dealt with Hülkenberg and said he's an idiot :D
     
  18. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,611
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Hulkenberg it is.

    Not the idiot, but next potential superstar. :)
     
  19. blinding

    blinding Rookie

    May 3, 2006
    9
    Portugal
    Full Name:
    Ivo Cardoso
    at least he has the same manager as Schumacher and he´s german, so that´s a start
     
  20. ferraridude615

    ferraridude615 F1 Veteran

    May 4, 2006
    5,836
    Texas
    Speaking of Hulks, he was testing today for Williams.
     
  21. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

    Nov 11, 2003
    13,189
    Orange County
    Full Name:
    Anthony T
    How did he do? Didn't he bed in the FW30?
     
  22. Necx0

    Necx0 Karting

    Dec 13, 2007
    182
    Australia
    Full Name:
    Scott
    Given your take on the greats then Vettel fits right in. They all had the speed and just needed to develop the strategic side of their driving while in F1. Vettel already has the speed, so by your argument if Vettel develops that side of his driving he will be brilliant, which I think he will. Prost, Senna and Schumacher all made mistakes early in their career. Vettel has only had half a season yet has been very impressive.

    He impressed me most at Race of Champions though, he was fabulous. Smooth, adaptable and very very very fast.
     
  23. ferraridude615

    ferraridude615 F1 Veteran

    May 4, 2006
    5,836
    Texas
    He did decent before he put the car off the track. Wouldn't it be funny if Hulks gets a ride for Williams and they have 2 Nicos, and STR has two Sebastians :D

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64782
     
  24. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

    Nov 11, 2003
    13,189
    Orange County
    Full Name:
    Anthony T
    Very LOL!!!!!!!!!
     
  25. ferraridude615

    ferraridude615 F1 Veteran

    May 4, 2006
    5,836
    Texas
    I just noticed that RBR has a Sebestien also, Sebastien Buemi is their test driver. So out of the 5 drivers Red Bull has in F1, 3 are named Sebastien.
     

Share This Page