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Vettel to replace Speed in France?

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The latest rumor is that the German wunderkind Sebastian Vettel (who set fastest time at his F1 debut in Monza last year) will replace Scott Speed at TR beginning with the French GP. Mateschitz and Berger are ok now with Liuzzi's step up in performance but are allegedly still unhappy with Speed.

    It's not official yet and Berger denies it, but...
     
  2. jk0001

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    Speed has proven to be a load. It is about time for them to get rid of him.
     
  3. Gilles27

    Gilles27 F1 World Champ

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    Dozens of American F1 fans will be crushed. Speed has the triple whammy working against him: he's a mediocre driver, he's an American with little fan base and he has no personality. If one of those were different, the team would probably want to keep him in the seat. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go.
     
  4. tifosi12

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    Timing is deliberate to give those dozens of North American fans a chance to see him at his home GP. Thereafter it is "Au revoir!".
     
  5. Scuderia980

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    great...some new blood in F1 :)
     
  6. jknight

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    Word I recently read had STR Team Principal Tost saying:

    "if Toro Rosso were interested in Vettel, they would have to negotiate a release from his BMW contract. The 19-year-old German is a Red Bull protege, but has been loaned to BMW Sauber as a test and reserve driver since mid-2006.

    "Regarding Vettel, as far as I'm aware he has a contract with BMW and is running in the Renault World Series and I don't see a reason to bring him out of there because he has an existing contract," said Tost.

    "He has a BMW contract. He's a Red Bull driver but contracted to BMW. I don't know the contract details but it's not currently a discussion in our team."

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    Vettel was darn good as a test driver last year at some of the F1 races. Scott Speed is overdue on exiting F1.

    Carol
     
  7. ferraridude615

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    Speed has been looking pretty good lately, and IMO better than Liuzzi.
     
  8. Remy Zero

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    i see no reason to replace Speed. it's not like he's being crushed by Tonio or something like that. STR should worry about their cars first, then about replacing drivers.
     
  9. Senna1994

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    +1 This team was a loser since the Minardi days and nothing is going to ever change, regardless of who drives for them.
     
  10. Remy Zero

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    LoL...

    the only difference is, Stodart used to whine a lot, but Berger's blaming his drivers...
     
  11. Scuderia980

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    hey, i was a HUGE Minardi supporter :) but, err, i think the driver change may have to do with political/business motives...the teams has to 'appear' that it's trying to win/progress, to keep the cash coming, or attract new money...or they do really believe that he's not getting the most out of the mediocre car... never know...
     
  12. tifosi12

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    They don't need to attract money because it is all funded by Red Bull cans. But neither Berger nor Mateschitz believe in Speed anymore.
     
  13. Senna1994

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    Why do you think Andreas, its not Liuzzi has put the place on fire.
     
  14. tifosi12

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    Just based on the article I read they talk about attitude towards racing: Liuzzi has shown a lot of good will vs Speed hasnt. Hmm, that reminds me of something...:)
     
  15. racerx3317

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    Luizzi is a wank too, they should ditch BOTH of them.
     
  16. 1_can_dream

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    Agreed, Scott was doing great this past weekend, until he had to retire. I really want to see him do well, but it's kind of card when he's in such a crappy car.
     
  17. SrfCity

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    I'm sure Speed turned it up because he knows his days are numbered. It's easier for the team to point the finger at the driver. They may as well cut their losses though with a guy who's probably not going to get much better.
     
  18. Remy Zero

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    well, what i don't understand is, why wanna get rid of a person who has got nothing to do with whats happening at the moment.


    i mean, like i said, it's a totally different scenario is tonio finished races in good position, or if he did helluva lot of overtaking on the track, and Speed did nothing.


    the situation now is, both drivers are doing nothing, and i'm sure it's down to the car, not drivers.
     
  19. ferraridude615

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    Why would they want to cut the only American driver in F1? Many American F1 fans (though few) hold STR in a place of respect for having the only American, they'd lose a sizeable chunk of fan base if they did that.
     
  20. Scuderia980

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    i don't think losing a couple hundred U.S fans is a concern to them :)
     
  21. ferraridude615

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    Please dont exaggerate, a couple hundred US F1 fans, you must be kidding :)
     
  22. ItaliaF1

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    +1

    Speed has been doing very well lately, and I definitely don't think it's his fault that they aren't having a great year. Toro Rosso isn't that much better than Minardi, and problems with the car has hindered his performance all year long.
     
  23. ferraridude615

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    Why is STR so far behind RBR, they have virtually identical cars and STR has the better Ferrari engines?
     
  24. DannyR

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    It's amazing to me that on a Ferrari site,of all places, you can get people who speak with such bravado and authority, yet clearly know so little about F1.
    Scott Speed is an amazing talent and has been back to his karting days.
    Without question he has the measure of Liuzzi. He is THE hope for an American driver in the present and near future of Formula One.
    Put Scott in Vettles BMW and he would at minimum equal him.
    As far as anyone doubting the US support of Scott.......they should go to Indy this year and watch the line of people waiting to get an autogrpah or a handshake......or just to say 'good luck'.
    Any student of the sport would underdstand the plight of all the drivers as they try to align themselves with a competitve car.
    It's difficult and requires dedication (which Scott has in abundance), finacing and luck. As for skill....none of the hopefuls would even be there in the first palce if they weren't at the top of the food chain when it comes to driving talent.
     
  25. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Of all the US fans my guess is 5% are there because of SS. If he dropped off it wouldn't make a dent WRT US, F1 fans. It's probably more of a sponsor thing than anything. IOW the fact that there's a US driver is something they can get their heads around and justify spending $$.
     

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