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  1. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    #1 freshmeat, Dec 13, 2012
    Ferrari has damaged its chances of ever luring Sebastian Vettel from Red Bull, Dr Helmut Marko claims.

    It has been rumoured for some time that German Vettel, Red Bull’s triple consecutive and reigning world champion, might one day consider a move to Ferrari.

    But outspoken Austrian Marko said: "Sebastian has the memory of an elephant. He logs everything.

    "And he will remember exactly how Ferrari behaved after the finale," he told Sport Bild.

    Marko is referring to Ferrari’s end-of-season suggestion that Vettel, 25, should be stripped of his latest title for overtaking illegally in Brazil late last month.

    Marko claims Ferrari’s charge was "below the belt", and that Vettel himself was unimpressed.

    Vettel is quoted as saying: "You don’t want to lose, but you still should know how to.

    "You have to respect your opponent and recognise their good performances," he added.

    [Source: GMM]

    I guess Seb didn't get the memo; Ferrari has greater respect for Newey's aero-ingenuity and have frequently & openly said they were racing Newey and not Vettel.

    Talking about under-handed tactics vs inquisitive questioning, RB's attempt to con the FIA into believing that their car was experiencing mechanical issues and hence couldn't return to the pits after qualifying (and their insistence on inspecting the car before shipping it to parc ferme) in Abu Dhabi was more "below the belt" than a question posed by Ferrari in the forma of a letter to the FIA for clarification on a pass under yellow flag.

    jmho.
     
  2. tifosi12

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    #2 tifosi12, Dec 13, 2012
    I highly doubt that this will have any effect on Vettel joining the Scuderia. For two reasons:

    1) Consider the source: Marko
    2) The Ferrari lure is strong.
     
  3. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    #3 freshmeat, Dec 13, 2012
    RB fans will disagree and actually went as far as saying there is no lure or "mythical status" at Ferrari or that Red Bull has its own "mythical status" rivaling that of Ferrari.
     
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    #4 tifosi12, Dec 13, 2012
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    ROTFLMAO

    They should drink less vodka with their RB.

    On what exactly would that mythical status be based? On a few years of participating in F1? Or winning three championships?
    Sounds like a bunch of millenials believing RB's hyperbole spin. They probably also think RB is a team without team orders.
     
  5. moretti

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    #5 moretti, Dec 13, 2012
    not strong enough to lure Mark Webber unfortunately
     
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    #6 tifosi12, Dec 13, 2012
    Webbo didn't want to be Fred's (rhimes with hitch).

    Seb would be his own #1.
     
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    #7 joker57676, Dec 13, 2012
    This one.


    Mark
     
  8. Remy Zero

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    #8 Remy Zero, Dec 13, 2012
    Fred will definitely be here someday. Ms will play his role also
     
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    #9 tifosi12, Dec 13, 2012
    ?????
     
  10. classic308

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    #10 classic308, Dec 13, 2012
    I stopped reading at Marko. Ferrari don't need seb, they need newey.
     
  11. Fast_ian

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    #11 Fast_ian, Dec 13, 2012
    +1
     
  12. lucky_13_2002

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    #12 lucky_13_2002, Dec 13, 2012
    Right on the money IMHO
     
  13. DF1

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    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)
    #13 DF1, Dec 14, 2012
    Mark is actually better off at Red Bull. He at least an atmosphere where he can race his team mate until the points or status in the championship say other-wise.
     
  14. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #14 DF1, Dec 14, 2012
    Ferrari are a real team not a myth. Fallable and human believe it or not. I do not feel Red Bull is anything more than Ferrari. They both are race teams in F1. The world turns without either. I am so happy not to be plagued with a hero worship syndrome.
     
  15. DeSoto

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    #15 DeSoto, Dec 14, 2012
    Marko talking BS?

    Wow, didn´t see that coming.
     
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    #16 Bas, Dec 14, 2012
    I read no such things in your other thread.
    +1
    Laughable.
     
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    #17 furoni, Dec 14, 2012
    worst than being a bad loser is being a bad winner!!!
     
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    #18 TifosiUSA, Dec 14, 2012
    +1
     
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    #19 TifosiUSA, Dec 14, 2012
    F1 dries up and blows away without Ferrari.
     
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    #20 TifosiUSA, Dec 14, 2012
    Webber was dumb enough to believe he would actually be able to challenge for the title at Red Bull and isn't the #2 there. Thus, when the negotiations were occuring during the middle of the year and Webber was near the top of the points (and frequently outqualifying/beating Vettel), he didn't want to leave because he thought the team would turn on him if he did, ruining his chances of a WDC.



    I bet if he could do it all over again he would be in red.
     
  21. DF1

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    #21 DF1, Dec 14, 2012
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    Webber has wins he would NEVER have if he wore red. He seems pretty happy where he is. If he was going to leave he would have. Red Bull seems like a pretty nice place to be. Kimi would like it there Im betting as well. Possibly he does feel Red Bull give him an honest chance to win.
     
  22. freshmeat

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    #22 freshmeat, Dec 14, 2012
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    Time to re-watch the Abu Dhabi race; I especially like how Horner straight out lies to multiple tv press immediately afterwards qualy :)
     
  23. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    #23 freshmeat, Dec 14, 2012
    There must be a language barrier. No one is saying they are a fable.

    As Jeremy Clarkson has said, "I like to consider Ferrari as a downsized version of God."

    Ppl around the world worship or gawk or dream or idolize (whatever word works for you) Ferrari, whether you like it or not, it's real. There's a reason why every time you take your Ferrari out pedestrians stare and take photographs...it's a real car not fable, and ppl perceive Ferrari on a pedestal or two above regular cars.
     
  24. texasmr2

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    #24 texasmr2, Dec 14, 2012
    Frankly I could care less who SV drives for even if it is Ferrari, he is not my "Cup of Tea".
     
  25. Tifoso1

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    #25 Tifoso1, Dec 14, 2012
    Great drivers comes and goes, as good as Vettel is at such a young age, I still think Alonso is better and is currently the best at this point in time. There has been many great drivers before Vettel and there will be many more after, so if Vettel does not want to drive for Ferrari, so be it. Ferrari will find someone else that is just as capable. We all know that driver is only part of the equation, had it been the ONLY equation, Alonso and Ferrari would be celebrating their 2012 title now.

    Just to name a few great drivers that never drove for Ferrari: Stewart, Clark and A. Senna.
     
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