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Video on DIY replacing the upper ball joints

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  1. Normal Guy Supercar

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    #1 Normal Guy Supercar, Feb 16, 2019
    Well, I haven't posted in a while, but I'm going to be starting a series of DIY projects on the F430 thanks to a sponsorship with Ricambi America! So to kick it off, they sent me upper ball joints and all the goodies to remove and replace. As I'm sure most of you know, the OEM ball joints are made of chrome plated steel instead of stainless steel. So eventually the chrome plating pits and corrodes, causing the joints to start popping, creaking, and get loose. Hill Engineering makes a stainless steel replacement that is much more durable than the OEM ball joints, so if you do this, use their parts for sure.

    Oh, and I messed up when installing them and didn't notice the step where you add grease. DUH! So I had to do a follow up video and grease them.

    It's a fairly simple job, although having the press tool certainly would make life easier. You might be able to fashion a socket to press out the joints and save some money.

    R&R Ball Joints Video:


    Follow up adding grease:


    Ball Joints Kit - UBJ-360-K - https://bit.ly/2HyNFBM
    Ball Joint extraction tool - UBJ-360-BRT - https://bit.ly/2sDNjQn
    Hysol Glue - 184241 - https://bit.ly/2S2HFW4
    Hysol Dispenser tool - 184241-T - https://bit.ly/2sDMvuH
    Grease I used: https://amzn.to/2EdvNsG
    Grease gun: https://amzn.to/2EeEUJO

    If there's any particular DIY video you think would be a good one, let me know as we're planning to do at least 6 more and we're trying to do items that are really common on the 430 or 360.
     
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  2. flash32

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    #2 flash32, Feb 16, 2019
    Love your videos



    Maybe

    Flambloc bushings

    Gear box oil change with the proper blowing of oil lines and cleaning of screen.


    F1 full fluid replacement and bleed .. I am hoping someone with lend you a autel or sd diag tool

    Clutch replacement

    Belt change .. going thru the back of passenger compartment

    Power steering flush

    Coolant flush .. not sure if you did this already



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  3. Normal Guy Supercar

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    #3 Normal Guy Supercar, Feb 16, 2019
    The clutch is on the list, but will probably be the last item. And when I do the clutch I'll replace the transmission mount as well.

    I'm planning to do the coolant on my own soon as mine is due.

    I did change the trans fluid on mine and cleaned the screen. I tried to blow out the lines but it didn't make much of a difference.


    I'll see about some of the other suggestions. Those may be good ones as they are all common.

    Thanks for the suggestions. :)
     
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  4. flash32

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    #4 flash32, Feb 16, 2019
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    Must have missed that one

    Wish I was close to you so I can give you a hand

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    #5 blown94conv, Feb 16, 2019
    Great video, makes me wonder about the $4,000 about I got to get the front ones replaced. Mind you, I didn’t ask them to check them, but they were more then happy to volunteer to do them.

    I’m not against a shop making money, but I’m also not about to blow money away.
     
  6. Normal Guy Supercar

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    #6 Normal Guy Supercar, Feb 16, 2019
    Are doing upper and lower ball joints? The parts alone would be about $1500 +/- a few hundred... So at $150-200/hour they're factoring in over 10 hours of work... That seems expensive.
     
  7. flash32

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    #7 flash32, Feb 17, 2019
    Just a FYI

    I looked at the current manual and it states that they no longer recommend changing ball joints and recommend changing the whole arm

    The older version showed the process as you followed

    Just curious why the change .. money thing ? Safety thing? Too many screw up at dealers

    Any thoughts welcome

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  8. Jgivoo

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    #8 Jgivoo, Feb 18, 2019
    Ferrari needs to sell its surplus control arm inventory.
     
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    #9 mike01606, Feb 18, 2019
    Have you the TSB that says grease the bearings? The original WSM said use Fiat MR3 grease on the ball joints and bolt heads but that was on the original chrome plated steel parts. The HE stainless steel joints have a PTFE liner so should not require lubrication. I’m not saying greasing them is incorrect I’ve just not seen it done before on the HE joints.
     
  10. Need4Spd

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    #10 Need4Spd, Feb 18, 2019
    Interesting. I’ve never seen the actual HE joint so had no idea about the coating.

    Will PTFE degrade in the presence of synthetic grease? I could see it being better either way unless grease negatively affects the coating (I suppose even if it doesn’t chemically attack the coating, it will attract dirt and likely abrade the coating over time).


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  11. fotostars

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    #11 fotostars, Feb 18, 2019
    I asked HE and they basically sent me a PDF of the new WSM and recommended following it. This is where Dan got the info too, I believe. The new WSM shows the grease being applied to the boot. I was thinking it was to help the boot get on the thing easier. I'm pretty sure they'll work fine without grease but shouldn't do anything bad to add some.
     
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    #12 flash32, Feb 18, 2019
    Not sure how new that WSM since the new WSm says that they do not recommend to changing ball joints but to replace whole arm

    Maybe that an updated WSM but not the latest

    Just a FYI ..

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  13. whatheheck

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    #13 whatheheck, Feb 18, 2019
    Thanks for the video Daniel!

    Dan
     

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