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Vignale spyder #504 restoration

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  1. gcmerak

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    Looking good Ivan!

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  2. thecarnut

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    Rick and George,

    Several of the Maserati folks from Tennessee are coming for the Atlanta Italian Car Day. We plan to get together at my house (and new garage) the evening of Oct 8.

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  3. sunburn

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    Sounds great Ivan. Mary and I will be there!
     
  4. gcmerak

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    Thanks Ivan,

    Give our best to everyone! Great group of folks.

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  5. alberto

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    Any progress on the restoration?
     
  6. thecarnut

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    #206 thecarnut, Dec 6, 2010
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    I spent the nice Fall days cleaning, painting and detailing the individual components. This was very time consuming. Now that it is getting much colder the focus will be on assembly. It took me two days to cut and fit a new grill mesh. The grill is back on the car and looks really nice. The original mesh was badly pitted and could not be restored. The gas tank was dipped cleaned and then sealed and painted. The individual suspension components are now nice and clean, waiting to be installed.

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  7. Ferraripilot

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    Looking fabulous.
     
  8. mfletch

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    #208 mfletch, Dec 6, 2010
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    Ivan, it looks fantastic. Have you found a source for the gasket material that goes between the tank and the body of the car? I would also like to purchase some of the interior screws/washers, if you know where to obtain them. Thanks, Mark.
     
  9. PSk

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    +1. What brand are the shockabsorbers? My Alfa has green ones originally too.

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  10. alberto

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    Very nice. Do you rattle can paint these individual pieces or do you powdercoat them yourself, outsource them?

    What do you do to keep the parts taken off the car organized and stored?
     
  11. gcmerak

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    Keep up the great work!

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  12. thecarnut

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    #212 thecarnut, Dec 7, 2010
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    On my car the front shocks were RIV and the rear Girling. They were painted the same "avocado green" color. I am looking for the stencil to paint the yellow RIV letters on the front shocks.

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  13. thecarnut

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    #213 thecarnut, Dec 7, 2010
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    I outsourced the power coating. For things where power coating is not practical (ie: gasoline tank, radiator, etc) I used the Eastwood Extreme chassis black primer and paint, which comes out of a rattle can. Eastwood makes good products.

    Items were disassembled into individual Hefty Zip lock bags and placed into storage bins. The three storage bins are labeled, interior, exterior and engine/undercarriage. There are hundreds of these Hefty bags which I spread on the floor in the hope of finding what I am looking for. Locating stuff has to be one of the most time consuming aspects of a restoration.

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  14. thecarnut

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    #214 thecarnut, Dec 7, 2010
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    I do not recall a gasket between the tank and body on my car.

    I am glad you brought up the question about interior trim screws. The original screws were chrome plated steel and over time they pit. I purchased slotted oval head trim screws in stainless steel at Fastenal that will polish to chrome appearance and will last much longer. I have not found a good source for the finishing washers. The shape of the finishing washers normally available is different from what Maserati used. On the photo below, the washer on the left is what is commonly available, the one on the right is the correct shape. Any ideas where to find these?

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    #216 William Abraham, Dec 7, 2010
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    Ivan, I have read with interest. Wonderful project. I am not a restorer but these do bear some similarity with washers avaiable in the UK http://www.bresco.com/acatalog/Nuts_and_Bolts.html

    I will attach a photo. My QP III refurbishments will not be as interesting but I will try to make the photos as clear and helpful.

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    Ivan, I got my answer on the interior screws and washers....thanks guys.

    On my car the gasket between the tank and body is about one inch wide by 1/2 inch thick. It has adhesive on one side. It appears to be original and it served the purpose of keeping water out of the spare wheel well. Have you found any good sources for gasket material?

    Your shocks look great. My shocks will also need some attention. I found Koni shocks that I am considering. Did you rebuild your original shocks? How can I tell if mine are still functional? The bushings are definately shot.
     
  18. thecarnut

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    It makes sense that there would be some sort of gasket between the tank and body. I took a ton of photos when taking things apart and kept any old stuff no matter how bad so I could match it. Is the gasket a dense foam rubber? If it is a dense foam rubber then Home Depot should have something that work.

    I bought the shocks from Jacques or MIE (do not recall who) and painted them to match the originals.

    Ivan
     
  19. thecarnut

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    Thanks to William and Helmut for the recommendations on the washers. They look like a very good match. There is most likely a USA supplier that carries these washers. Let me see if I can find one.

    Ivan
     
  20. mfletch

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    Ivan, the gasket material is dense foam rubber. I will give Home Depot a try. I just got off the phone with Jacques (ordering more parts of course) and he does not currently have shocks for our cars. Thanks once again for the information and advice. I really appreciate it.
     
  21. thecarnut

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    #221 thecarnut, Dec 20, 2010
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    The engine has been completed and I picked it up today. This photo was taken with my cell phone at Coventry West, which did the work. As mentioned previously, the engine was done by a master engine rebuilder that specializes in Jaguar XK engines but was eager to work on a Maserati. Sitting next to the 3500GT engine is an engine from an 1966 Jaguar e-type which I am also restoring. This Vignale spyder, the XKE Jag, a couple of Ghibli spyders and an Indy are keeping me quite busy!

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  22. DMaury

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    Wow, that's some beautiful work there.
     
  23. thecarnut

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    #223 thecarnut, Dec 21, 2010
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    To transport the Maserati and Jaguar engines home, the two engines were put side by side with a pool float in between. Not fancy, but it works.

    Two Jaguar XJ6 engine lifting brackets were temporarily installed on the Maserati engine to make it easier to load and unload on the trailer. It will also make it easier to install the engine on the car. The brackets will be removed once the engine is installed.

    The 4-speed ZF gearbox looks tiny compared to the massive 3500GT engine, and to the Jaguar gearbox.

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    Not sure I have seen a red diff before. Whats the story with that?
    Nice looking engine, I see it is an early I6 sans the external oil pump. I also see you went with the sanded cam covers over plain wrinkle paint. I have seen factory photos showing both finishes. Did the car originally have sanded script cam covers?
    No complaints just curious. I like them both ways. See the Bertone engine bay on my thread.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277235&page=3

    Ciao,
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