VIN check on 308 QV

48677 looks like a 1983 QV according to 308 GTS QV

 

You can decode the VIN here:

Red Headed - VIN Decoder

but it doesn't say much as there really wasn't a "model year" used in Europe then (so a euro 308QV made in 1983 per Mike's point might be called a 1985 if it wasn't sold/registered right away).

If it only has a 5-digit odometer, a 170,000 km car will show the same number as a 70,000 km car (I don't know when they went to the 6-digit odometer so may not apply).

Interesting touch with the body colored rear spoiler...

 

I am not familiar with vindecoderz.com but it is clear from entering a few random VINs that the km values returned are just random numbers. Do not pay them any attention. In fact, I'm not sure that you will get the same km value if enter the same VIN twice. It might easily be a scam that just decodes the VIN (easy to do) and makes it look like it has more information available so you pay to get it.

Edit: In fact, if I enter a correctly formatted but incorrect VIN (e.g. ZFFLA13B000099977 - much too high a chassis number for a 308 GTS QV) it still gives me a km value. IGNORE this site. It is clearly a scam.

Jonathan

 

Definitely not stock -- they are black from the factory like in Mike's thumbnail photo.

 

Sorry Steve: I'm not sure for QVs, it should be checked, but it could well be stock, because these are "Euro" cars.
Remember, and this I'm sure, that for 328s in Europe the "body colored" roof spoiler was available as an option (the ONLY option at no extra cost!) and many euro 328s have "body colored" roof spoilers (except the french cars: Ch.Pozzi didn't offer it).
I have an original flyer from 1988 from "Auto Becker" in Germany listing the options available for the 328, and the "body colored" roof spoiler is on it. And 80515, my German 328 GTS, has a "body colored" roof spoiler; this is one of the reasons there are two different type of spoilers in the part catalogue: only the "smooth" one can be painted without being sanded before.
So on an "euro" car, it could well be stock and ordered from the factory.

Rgds

 

Would never deny that individual F Dealers could offer many special treatments -- so something like that can be "original" to the initial Buyer, but the SPC difference for the rear spoilers is noted for the two body styles (GTB vs GTS) not the surface finish. We've had a lot of euro cars imported to the US, and I can't recall ever seeing that body-colored spoiler treatment (and it wouldn't be required by the US to change it ), nor recall seeing it in the photos posted here. Is it a common thing in Europe?

 

On 328s, almost ALL cars have the body colored roof spoiler in the UK; in Germany and Italy, it is about fifty/fifty. But in France, it was not offered by Ch.Pozzi, the historic importer.
You choosed it when ordering the car, it was at no extra cost, and the car came from the factory with it already painted; there are pictures of rows of new 328s outside the factory, some with black spoilers, other with body-colored one.
Of course, it had to be the "smooth" one because you could'nt paint the "coarse", due to the material used.
I must say that I am not sure for injected 308; I must ask Alberto about this.

Rgds

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iFXdkAcJy7M/VtmDatFsNDI/AAAAAAABQkg/Q-LjLo7__WY/s640/1988_ferrari_328_gts_4.jpg

 

Just surprises me that I haven't noticed more of them around, but thanks for the information...

 

Really very, very common on Euro 328s...for the QV, I have to ask my "network" first.

http://s.petrolicious.com/quick-takes/2013/przemek/pawel-1.jpg?h=320

Rgds

And it works also for GTBs...

http://ag-spots-2014.o.auroraobjects.eu/2014/01/12/ferrari-328-gtb-c827412012014193301_3.jpg

 

I've seen lots of QVs in UK with body coloured rear spoilers. But I can't vouch that they left the factory like that as it's just my observation when I am looking at the RHD cars in particular.

 

On 328, it was a factory option. On QVs, perhaps also, but it must be cross-checked before stating anything for sure.

Rgds

 

here in Europe, just black rear wings on QV and 208 turbo, also in body color (option, more or less 10% cars, for what I saw at the time) on 328 and turbo intercooler. 328 had the rear wing as option (almost all had that, more or less), so there are some (very few) 328 without rear wing. Standard on the turbo cars, so there aren't turbo cars without rear wing

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My 81085 is "wingless" Alberto...
I have researched the question of the roof spoiler on the french 328s: about two-third of the cars have one, about one third does not.
But back to the question: so, no "body colored" roof spoilers on Euro QVs?

Rgds
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The roof spoiler was an option, either body-coloured or black, on QVs. At extra cost, of course. Some, though, have changed colour over the years and I don't know if it is original on this car or not.

Jonathan

 

Well, you should always be careful because we once asked the question on this forum for 328s, and although the "smooth" spoiler was normally intended for GTBs (in Black or painted) or painted on GTSs, it appears that a small number of GTBs did indeed receive the "coarse" one from the factory...

But, on principle:

"smooth" spoiler goes:
- on GTBs were it could be black or body color (if that option was available)
- on GTSs when the option for the spoiler to be "body color" was available.

"coarse" spoiler goes on GTSs which have black spoilers, where its texture is matched with the one of the targa top.
Black GTSs in Europe may however also have a "smooth" spoiler painted black. Mine does, but the car is metallic black.

Rgds

 

I saw dozens of euro QV here in Italy, in the eighties: here around Modena there were an incredible number of those cars (Italy was Ferrari first market at those times, with 30-50% of sales more or less...) . All of them had black rear spoiler.

My 328 GTB was wingless too, but it was very uncommon


ciao

 

From what I have seen here, "wingless" 328 seem especially common towards the end of production. A friend is selling his "grigio" 328 GTB now, #81829: it is also "wingless".

Rgds