Want to start a (small) classic exotic supercar collection -- need advice

Hit me up on IM, and I'll hook you up with all three cars. No finder's fee, no strings attached—just pure car magic!

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Taking bets.

Odds will be based on days in response, payout on actual acquisition of said 3.

I'll start by being super charitable. $100 on 1:1 days

 

$300 on 5 days response time. Infinite days for acquisition


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Shrewd! and well played!

 

D'oh!

 

Looks like I was mistaken! I apologize for my skepticism—so many posts here seem insincere. I received your message and sending a note now.

 

Sorry for my initial skepticism. We get so many insincere posts that I unfairly judged you and your intentions. I hope you can accept my apology and forgive my presumptuousness.

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Getting an XJ should be pretty straightforward, as there are several available right now. However, I might have misunderstood your original post—A Zonda C12 under $1 million*? Is this a project car you're intending?

Nice to hear you are local and it’s a happy coincidence, as I’m always eager to connect with local collectors; let me know a good time and date (via IM), and happy to met so I may apologize in person.

ISSIMI is a great location to meet up and discuss next steps.

Kindest regards

P.S. People here know I'm a man of my word, I'll have a shiny Benjamin waiting for you! You don't even have to pull the trigger*

 

Yes, those have definitely been 'called up' so to speak.

As for the XJ220,. No doubt you'll track one down, they are relatively plentiful. My offer stands if you are in need of a trusted broker, see info and contact details in DM.

Either way, best of luck on your car hunt!

 

Call Curated, they might be able to hook you up with an expensive Zonda.

 

**** small. Let's go large.

 

Check out the British Car section
British Forum
There are a couple of XJ220 owners on the board, one guy even owns a XJ220S
You might want to contact them, pretty sure you could find the right XJ220 quite quickly with the right guidance.

Traded one great mid engined V-6 for another

 

The Pagani might be a bit of a stretch. In Switzerland there are currently 4 Paganis listed for sale. Mostly newer ones. The prices are in Swiss francs. The exchange rate to USD is roughly 1:1 so you can interpret these prices as USD to get a ballpark number.


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Forgive me, I never gave you any good advice in my prejudice.

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Buckle up, here come the 10 Commandments of High-End Car Ownership:

1. Thou Shalt Study with Obsession: Learn all about your object of desire. Any low-volume car has quirks, and knowing those “gotchas” can save your wallet and sanity. But for the love of all things automotive, make sure you’ve actually driven the car before dropping the cash. It’s like thinking you want to be with someone only then discovering you can’t stand their personality, the more apt analogy is not family friendly.
   
   
2. Thou Shalt Watch the Market: Keep your eyes on the auction blocks, where a broker/insider is a must is the private deals. Public databases/auctions only show 'half' the story - at the high end, cars have direct exchanges (sometimes unorthodox) - I presume you know why.
   
   
3. Thou Shalt Choose Thy Seller Wisely: There are two types of sellers: ones who are too rich to care about the cost of maintenance, and ones who are too rich to care about the cost of maintenance. Sound the same? - actually opposite. Buy from the first one. (eh second one, uh - I mean the one that took care of the car.)
   
   
4. Thou Shalt Inspect with Extreme Prejudice: Get a specialist, not a generalist, to inspect the car. The one that works on your specific car, not just read about them.
   
   
5. Thou Shalt Expect High Maintenance Costs: Expect maintenance costs to be relatively exorbitant, happens with any cars with small run lines.
   
   
6. Thou Shalt Secure the Holy Documentation: Make sure every piece of provenance is in place. And yes, that includes the $1,000 wrench in the toolkit. It’s not just a wrench; it’s a sticklers requirement to future resale value.
   
   
7. Thou Shalt Befriend Fellow Owners: Their knowledge is pure gold. Buy them a coffee, pick their brains, and learn from their mistakes before you make your own.
   
   
8. Thou Shalt Find a Proper Mechanic: Trust me, it’s not if something goes wrong, it’s when. Official dealers might be shiny, but even they sometimes outsource (unofficially of course) the tricky stuff. Know who’s really turning the wrenches.
   
   
9. Thou Shalt Obey the Law: Importing or exporting? Make sure your car isn’t about to get impounded for missing paperwork or failing emissions.
   
   
10. Thou Shalt Store Thy Treasure Safely: Proper storage is a must. Your car deserves better than a dusty corner of the garage. Also, get insurance that’ll actually cover its full value—no “bargain” policies here.

Now go forth and conquer the high-end car world!

P.S. Will get you intouch with someone I personally known for 20 years locally via DM.

 

Sorry but the XJ220 will never have the same aura as the CGT. It's just not a good car. The engine is uninspiring and the car is not v reliable itself. Plus it's way too big to really enjoy on fun roads. It looks beautiful yes. But that's where it ends.
Id buy one hoping to not lose money on them but i dont see them going 2x or 3x any time soon.

Zonda - yes, that ship has sailed and it sailed quickly! A C12 or 12S is probably $4m-$5m. An F is around $10m. Then the limited ones are even more. Absolutely bonkers.

 

As for a 360 - i think if your main goal is value, id look for a 360 Modena and not a spider, and id look for a gated car, with racing seats. Those are rare(r) and will be the ones that will appreciate.

 

Greetings,

I’ve just sent an introduction email to you and my broker. Wishing you the best of luck with your search for a Pagani, XJ220, and Ferrari 360!

I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing the Pagani a few times, and you truly have impeccable taste. While our Jaguar community isn’t too active, you’ll find the 360 forum to be quite lively.

Warm regards.

 

There is currently a Zonda For sale in Germany i believe, but its one of the one of one cars.... ill have to look around to remember who has it for sale currently... but i believe in general a Zonda will cost you atleast like 4million euro + these days

 

I will agree wholeheartedly with paulchua's asessment of things.

I have a warehouse full of stuff I like, not necessarily any kind of specifically curated collection beyond that. I can't agree more with the "talk to other owners" bit - a strong collection and a good experience will only come from relationships and networking. You will definitely need a good, trusted broker- they can find available cars that no one else even knows about. The higher end the car, the deeper the layers. I've been involved in deals where no one actually doing the deal spoke to a principal on either end, all done through brokers and handlers. This is why trust is imperative. Di the car you're looking at sell at RM 2 years ago for half of the current ask? does the market warrant that? Or, why is it now offered for half of what it sold for a few years ago? What's the history there? Guys who haven't done their homework risk getting robbed on every deal. And, some won't care but I don't have enough money not to care yet
You really need to know the market, the cars, the holes and swings in the market. A good broker can help with those projections.
Lastly, a good trusted mechanic. You can't park cars in the corner for 10 years, they'll need to be properly looked after. There's probably already several good books on that topic, but it's no less important.

Good luck on your journey!

 

+1 Spot-on