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  1. aaronrgonz

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    #1 aaronrgonz, May 13, 2019
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    "Berlinetta 0703 GT, 1 of only 8 Berlinetta Tour de France in existence, was completed on May 7th, 1957, making it the penultimate example built. The car was intially sold to Albino Buticchi of Milan, Italy, who entered it in the 1957 Mille Miglia to traverse 1,000 miles of Italian countryside in 11 hours, 44 minutes and 27 seconds."




    Check out the full article here:

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/news/867
     
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    1 of 8 TdFs in existence? Certainly the only one with a cup holder. I prefer 0677 GT.
     
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    #3 miurasv, May 13, 2019
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    0703GT is one of 9 14 louvre second series 250 GT LWB TdFs that were built. However a total of of around 77 were built consisting of cars with no sail panel louvres, 14 louvres, 3 louvres, 1 louvre and Zagato bodied cars.
     
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    I assumed that the reference was to the 14 louvre series but please doesn't anyone check facts/copy?
     
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    Any article about the 250 GT LWB cars should also state that "Tour de France" was not an official Ferrari name for this series of cars.
     
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    That's such outdated thinking. :eek:
    1 of 8 sounds much more dramatic & exciting than 1 of nearly 80. :rolleyes:
    Besides, if everyone just checks & copies facts or fiction already published by others, no new (mis-)information can come to light. :D
     
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    Rare, certainly, but '69 Trans-Am convertible rare?!
     
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    No screaming chickens were sacrificed in the making of a 250 TdF 14 louvre hopefully...

    of course maybe a windshield or 5 got sacrificed! ;)
     
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    An absolute art piece. What an experience and honour it must have been to cover 1000 miles in 11 hours in this incredible car.
     
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    And trounced by Gendebien in 0677 GT, 10 hours, 35 minutes, one of the great drives of the MM.
     
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    The Interim grup should also be included in what is referred to as the TdF series. They too were the long wheelbase chassis.
     
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    Yes, they are the LWB chassis of course. I've always wondered myself about that but I've never seen any of the 7 Interim cars referred to as a TdF.
     
  13. Jeff Kennedy

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    I consider all the LWB to be TdF - if one version then all versions as they are from the same genesis and all have success in the Tour de France. Jess P. told me way back that the event organizers considered any winning car to be able to use the TdF moniker for that series. So, the LWB, SWB and GTO would all qualify according to him.
     
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    I happy you all seem to have the facts but unfortunately your information is not what is displayed right next to the car. The information presented in the article is the same information that is presented in this collection. So your quarrel is with the collection, and if I personally had this TdF I would say it's the rarest machine ever and it flies on magic dust.

    Just to clarify: are there more than 8 of this exact model/design currently in existence? If so I can change the article, but I won't be correcting the collector:D
     
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    #15 miurasv, May 15, 2019
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    I said there were 9 14 Louvre 250 GT LWB TdFs that were built.

    Here are the chassis numbers of the 9 x 14 Louvre cars that were built: 0585, 0597, 0607, 0629, 0647, 0677, 0683, 0703, 0707.

    There is some question as to whether 0647 still exists after it was dismantled and parted out by Ed Niles, but I have read that it is being rebuilt or has been rebuilt????

    It is said that 9 no louvre Scaglietti bodied TdFs were built with a wrap around rear window, 5 Zagato bodied cars, 9 Scaglietti bodied 14 louvre cars, 17 Scaglietti bodied 3 louvre cars and 37 Scaglietti bodied 1 louvre cars.
     
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    If the LWB Interim is included, as I believe would be correct, there are 7 more: 1377, 1461, 1465, 1509, 1519, 1521 and 1523. 1523 was destroyed in period.

    Jack Booker: In the Vintage forum of F-Chat one should be vigilant about accuracy. It may count for less in a more general setting but here you will find lots of extremely knowledgeable members that are attuned to the minutiae. I would admonish you that in the future you check more thoroughly than to just repeat what an owner may wish to claim.
     
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    Thank you for your admonition but I have many more responsibilities than fact checking other people's information, which was correct in the first place. So in the case of parroting accurate information to the community, I will continue to do so.
     
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    #18 miurasv, May 15, 2019
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    Sorry, but the article is not correct.

    From the article:

    "Berlinetta 0703 GT, 1 of only 8 Berlinetta Tour de France in existence, was completed on May 7th, 1957, making it the penultimate example built."

    If you include the Interim 250 GT LWB Berlinetta cars bodied by Scaglietti there are around 84? cars in existence.

    The article should read:

    "Berlinetta 0703 GT, 1 of only 8 (or 9 depending on whether 0647 still exists) 14 louvre Berlinetta Tour de France in existence, was completed on May 7th, 1957, making it the penultimate example built."

    or:

    "Berlinetta 0703 GT, 1 of only 83 (or 84)? Berlinetta Tour de France in existence, was completed on May 7th, 1957."

    The above sentence does not take into account if any other TdFs have been destroyed and no longer exist either.
     
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    If you believe that parroting information is all that you need to do then maybe there are other topics you should concentrate on. The world of Ferrari history is fraught with oft repeated stories that were based upon something published at one time that may have been inaccurate to begin with. Then there are the ones where it was in someone's self interest to be "creative" with their facts. Please do no succumb to being one of them just because it would have taken a bit research effort to get the story correct. In this case I would suspect that the owner could have loaned you his copy of the Jess Pourret book on the 250 GT cars so you would have had a better understanding of the topic. The owner of such a car would likely know the details even if their placard for the public used some "shorthand" descriptions.

    On the articles I wrote in the past I tried hard to do research so that my understanding was pretty thorough before writing.
     
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    0647GT: There is a fakey-do (in Engand?). There is also the real car, using (at least) the original frame, engine, trans and Ca title. I recently had the pleasure of lunching with the rebuilder and the new owner. It's a beautiful car. I'm the idiot who parted it out, years ago, and I'm convinced. Others may disagree.
     
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