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Webber made a 'mistake'.

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  1. classic308

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    Thank you for eloquently stating the obvious-MS was able to take with him the excellent technical team from Benetton to Ferrari and turned Ferrari into a winner; Rossi did the same for Yamaha when his chief race mechanic followed him there. The entire mindset of the team changed...

    Twk63:WoW! McLaren has over a thousand employees! That's great! Toyota
    has more employees than McLaren and guess what? McLaren hasn't won a race all year and Toyota has never won a GP!

    How much of the Renault team is following FA to McLaren? How many races has McLaren won since Newey left????
     
  2. classic308

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    This is an interesting statement. If Honda can produce a competitive car? They had a very competitive car based on preseason testing times and on race day they sucked. I doubt they will change much. RB has been in F1 12+plus years, I don't think he'll "adjust his driving style to suit the car" at this point in his career. Perhaps the technical team at Honda need to "adjust their engineering style to suit the driver".

    JB? He finally won his first race after 113 Grand Prixs (and that win was under strange circumstances). At this rate he'll be the next Ricardo Patrese. 'Nuf said.
     
  3. twk63

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    Webber might barely make my top 15 list...barely.
     
  4. twk63

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    Let me put it another way, if you were to stick Schumacher in a Minardi and leave everyone else at Ferrari, do you think MS would still win?

    Of course not. You need an entire team to win in F1, not just a driver.
     
  5. twk63

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    What a moronic comment.

    McLaren has won well over 100 GPs, and Newey was around for perhaps 30 of them. He was around for 2 of McLaren's 9 WDCs. McLaren is more than just Newey and if you think they are going to be winless for any length of time, then you must be a complete idiot with absolutely no understanding of F1. They were a championship-winning team long before Newey showed up and they will be a championship-winning team long after he is gone.

    Yes, Toyota has a big staff and they also have no stability. McLaren does. Comparing Toyota to McLaren is the idea of someone who has no clue as to what they are talking about.

    Alonso doesn't need to bring anyone to McLaren, that team has a deeper bench of talent than any other in F1, including Ferrari. They also have a stellar record of achievement in F1. One disappointing season does not make them also-rans. Alonso will win GPs in a McLaren next season, mark my words.

    If this is what you think, then I want to be on the other side of your wagers. You have no clue as to what you are talking about.
     
  6. classic308

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    This seems to be your standard reply to people who's opinions differ from yours.

    How old are you? I'll wager 16 or 17 tops......
     
  7. twk63

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    Close...43
     
  8. twk63

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    No, it is my standard response to idiotic comments.

    I welcome informed debate, with the operative word being "informed".
     
  9. classic308

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    43 years old physically but mentally you are clearly a child.....
     
  10. twk63

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    You're so right. I have been leading a mispent life all these years and now thanks to your intervention I see the error of my ways. I will now devote myself to anger management, one-on-one counseling, group therapy, and I will resolve to get in touch with my true inner self to deal with these conflicts swirling within me. With luck, and with the support of selfless individuals such as yourself, hopefully I will make a breakthrough, write a book about my journey, and appear on Oprah.

    How can I ever thank you??
     
  11. classic308

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    Send me some of the $$$ you make on the book/Oprah appearance....;)
     
  12. Senna1994

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    Easy there guys.....Both of you will soon be jumping off the couch!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. twk63

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    LOL...between the both of us we might be able to get a medium coffee at Dunkin Donuts.
     
  14. classic308

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    Its all good.................
     
  15. rcraig

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    Hey TWK63. You sure seem to know a whole lot. Wow wee I'm so impressed. I just went back through a bunch of your posts and found out one thing. You have to be one of the top ten all-time a**holes ever on this chat site which is ironic because you misspelled colonoscopy in one of your previous posts. You should be very familiar with them.
     
  16. Townshend

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    Not F1, but the Illinois State Police would also add "Waltz" to that list.
     
  17. Mr Payne

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    Laughable.
     
  18. Senna1994

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    Wow, I wouldn't go that low....
     
  19. ferrarifixer

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    Fastest, over 1 lap, in order...

    Kimi
    Alonso
    Button
    Barrichello
    MS

    Webber scrapes top 8 somewhere

    Fastest, over a race distance...

    MS
    Kimi
    Alonso
    Button
    Fisi

    Webber not even top 10

    just check the stats and points....
     
  20. Mr Payne

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    How do people still think Barrichello is fast?
     
  21. Admiral Thrawn

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    I agree with you except about Barrichello. How on Earth do you figure he's faster than MS over one lap?! Michael seems to have the ability to pump out fastest laps right when they're needed. Alonso is very consistent but I don't think he (quite) has the raw pace of Michael and Kimi.

    Personally I'd say Kimi just edges MS for no. 1 when it comes to one lap pace, but MS has demonstrated over the years that he can deliver them more consistently (e.g. all the pole positions, fastest race laps).
     
  22. ferrarifixer

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    easy... car advantage and fuel/team strategy.. at Ferrari, MS usually had a better and/or lighter car, despite that, RB often out qualified him or got incredibly close despite his disadvantages.

    every where else he's been, Rubens has often been a rocket in qualifying, yet lacks consistency in the race... plus he's a big cry baby and emotional featherweight...which doesn't help.
     
  23. Remy Zero

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    me ;)
     
  24. Senna1994

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    I think he is quick on his day, when things are going right. Too bad he didn't retire instead of MS...
     
  25. twk63

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    If I am familiar with colonoscopies, it would be because I have to deal with so many a.s.s.holes such as yourself.

    Go **** yourself.
     

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