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  1. 375+

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    Thanks Marcel, it went to great home.
     
  2. readplays

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    I'd be interested in a c/n list of what's in the current stable (including anything that's not pictured) and even anything that's been bought and sold on.
    To state the obvious, it seems like the focus has been on getting 50's sports racers.

    It may be checkbook collecting, but it's still a sight to see so many of the old horses gathered in one place.
     
  3. 180 Out

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    The room(s) where he hangs his Picassos must be equally overwhelming. I expect they don't get the rosso corsa treatment.
     
  4. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Dave, this may be a good start

    340 America #0140A - 2011 - onwards
    166/250/340MM Vignale Spider - ?
    166/250/340MM Vignale Spider - ?
    225S Vignale Spider #0216 - 2012 - onwards
    340 Mexico Coupe #0226AT - 2011 - onwards
    340 Mexico Spider #0228AT - 2011 - onwards
    375MM #0364AM - 2011 - onwards (yellow #5)
    375 Plus #0384AM - 2014 - onwards
    375MM Pininfarina Speciale Coupe #0490 - 2011 - onwards
    500TR - ?
    500TR - ?
    857S #0588M - 2012 - onwards
    410S #0592CM - 2014 - onwards
    500 Mondial/ 750 Monza - ?
    TRC - ?
    625TRC #0680MDTR? - 2012 - onwards
    Testa Rossa #0738TR - 2010 - onwards
    212 Europa Vignale Coupe #0313 - 2012 - 2015
    TDF #1039GT - 2011 - ?
    250 Cal LWB #1055 - 2012 - ?
    250GT SWB #1905GT - 2013 - ?
    250GT Series 2 #2077GT - 2011 - ?
    250GT Series 2 #3087GT - 2012 - 2015

    The rest shouldn't be too hard to work out but thats all I have
     
  5. El Wayne

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    Regarding your missing cars:

    166/250/340MM Vignale Spider - ? 225 Sport Vignale Spyder 0192ET
    166/250/340MM Vignale Spider - ? 340 MM Vignale Spyder 0350AM

    500TR - ? Where?
    500TR - ? Where?

    500 Mondial/ 750 Monza - ? 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0492M

    TRC - ? Where (other than 0680MDTR)?

    Also:
    166 MM Touring Barchetta 0024M
    342 America Pinin Farina Coupe 0246AL
    250 Europa GT Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0415GT
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0426MD
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0452MD
    410 Superamerica "Scaglietti" 0671SA
    275 GTB LM Speciale 06701
    F2000 Formula One 204
     
  6. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    500TR - opposite the 250TR in picture 4 & between SWB and MM Coupe in picture 5, could be wrong
    500TRC - opposite #0680MDTR, could also be wrong.

    Thanks El Wayne, didn't know about some of those details......

    Cheers
    Tim
     
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  9. nschots

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    0216ED is also on the photos, nicknamed "La Niña Bonita".
     
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    So.. now he owns 0658MDTR AND 0680MDTR?
     
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    He is the patron saint of four-bangers.
     
  12. El Wayne

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    I believe it is 0658, 0660, or 0668. Are we seeing a pair hood blisters (0658), or are these only reflections?
     
  13. nschots

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    Wayne, IDK. For the record, we can confirm that there is one TRC (0680MDTR), one TR (0650MDTR), and there is one more TRC and one more TR that we can not confirm their S/N´s. Wow.
     
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    #39 El Wayne, Jul 27, 2016
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    We have 0650, but where are you guys seeing the unidentified TR? Or are you referring to this image? If so, I believe it's also 0650, but photographed at a different time.
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  15. readplays

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    I believe the Cardinal of Modena has been very clear in his pronouncements:
    In order to achieve sainthood, the person in question has to actually drive them.
     
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    #41 readplays, Jul 28, 2016
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    Thanks Tim, Wayne, & Nicolás for your work on the numbers.
    I checked them through barchetta to see if any listed as sold and here is what I came up with;

    Current Collection
    166 MM Touring Barchetta 0024M
    340 America Vignale Spyder 0140A
    225 Sport Vignale Spyder 0192ET
    225 Sport Vignale Spyder 0216ED
    340 Mexico Vignale Berlinetta 0226AT
    340 Mexico Vignale Spyder 0228AT
    342 America Pinin Farina Coupe 0246AL
    340 MM Vignale Spyder 0350AM
    375MM Pinin Farina Spyder 0364AM* (*barchetta says 375MM 0364AM "immediately traded in for 0360AM" at RM Auction Aug 2013.)
    375 Plus Pinin Farina Spyder 0384AM
    250 Europa GT Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0415GT
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0426MD
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0452MD
    375MM Pininfarina Speciale Coupe 0490AM
    750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0492M
    857 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0588M
    410 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0592CM
    500 TR Scaglietti Spyder 0650MDTR
    500 (625) TRC Scaglietti Spyder 0658MDTR
    410 Superamerica Berlinetta Scaglietti 0671SA
    625 TRC Scaglietti Spyder 0680MDTR
    *one more TRC*
    250 TR Scaglietti Spyder 0738TR
    250 GT LWB Berlinetta "TdF" 1039GT
    250 GT SWB Berlinetta 1905GT
    275 GTB/C LM Speciale 06701

    F2000 Formula One 204

    Sold
    340 Mexico Vignale Berlinetta 0224AT
    212 Europa Vignale Coupe 0313EU
    250 GT LWB California Spyder 1055GT
    250 GT PF Cabriolet Series II 2077GT
     
  17. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Dave, add 500TR #0658MDTR and yes one more TRC......
     
  18. readplays

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    Sorted.
     
  19. Nelsonc275

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    Can someone estimate the value of this collection? It doesn't really matter but I think it would be cool to know. I know its hard to estimate, but I'm sure it can be done.
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    #45 Marcel Massini, Jul 28, 2016
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    That list is totally inaccurate.
    0192 ET long gone.
    0492 M long gone.
    And where is 0348 MM?
    0671 SA totally wrong, not owned by Mr. W.
    Plus at least twenty five more red Ferraris missing on that list.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #46 readplays, Jul 28, 2016
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    Thanks Tim, Wayne, Nicolás & Marcel for your work on the numbers.

    see updated post below.
     
  22. Marcel Massini

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    0492 M long gone.
    0600 MDTR missing on list.
    5899 sold.

    Marcel Massini
     
  23. readplays

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    Thanks Tim, Wayne, Nicolás & Marcel for your work on the numbers.

    Current Collection
    166 MM Touring Barchetta 0024M
    340 America Vignale Spyder 0140A
    225 Sport Vignale Spyder 0216ED
    340 Mexico Vignale Berlinetta 0226AT
    340 Mexico Vignale Spyder 0228AT
    342 America Pinin Farina Coupe 0246AL
    250 MM Vignale Spyder 0348 MM
    340 MM Vignale Spyder 0350AM
    375MM Pinin Farina Spyder 0364AM* (*barchetta says 375MM 0364AM "immediately traded in for 0360AM" at RM Auction Aug 2013.)
    375 Plus Pinin Farina Spyder 0384AM
    250 Europa GT Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0415GT
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0426MD
    500 Mondial Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0452MD
    375MM Pininfarina Speciale Coupe 0490AM
    857 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0588M
    410 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0592CM
    500 TR Scaglietti Spyder 0600MDTR
    500 TR Scaglietti Spyder 0650MDTR
    500 (625) TRC Scaglietti Spyder 0658MDTR
    625 TRC Scaglietti Spyder 0680MDTR
    *one more TRC*
    250 TR Scaglietti Spyder 0738TR
    250 GT LWB Berlinetta "TdF" 1039GT
    250 GT SWB Berlinetta 1905GT
    275 GTB/C LM Speciale 06701

    F2000 Formula One 204

    Sold
    225 Sport Vignale Spyder 0192ED
    340 Mexico Vignale Berlinetta 0224AT
    212 Europa Vignale Coupe 0313EU
    750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0492M
    250 GT LWB California Spyder 1055GT
    250 GT PF Cabriolet Series II 2077GT
    250 LM 5899GT

     
  24. Marcel Massini

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    #49 Marcel Massini, Jul 28, 2016
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    0081 S sold.
    0246 AL long gone.

    Also, 250 LM's don't have the chassis number suffix "GT" (except on the build sheets, but not on the actual tag on the frame).

    Add 0626 (the 290 MM).

    Add a 250 GT SWB California Spider.

    Marcel Massini
     
  25. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Marcel,

    I took my information from the photo's on page 1, couldn't say if that included all of Wexner's cars but that was my angle. Could we also include #0235EU a stunning PF Cabriolet 212 Inter which LW's agent Copley Motorcars is offering, I would of thought yes BUT it isn't painted red so its a maybe......

    Cheers
    Tim
     

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