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Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by motopoint, Jul 8, 2007.

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  1. motopoint

    motopoint Rookie

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    "Saving the engines for the European GP"

    quote from R D of Maclaren

    your at your home GP and infront of your home crowd and your saving your engines when you have been truly whipped in your own back yard

    Forza Ferrari
     
  2. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Seems any excuse will do.....
     
  3. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for the spoiler. :rolleyes: After you said Ron told them to back off, I figured it meant they shouldn't try to compete with one (if not both) of the Ferraris. Thanks a lot...
     
  4. PhilNotHill

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    Yes, a spoiler.

    RD "Mr. Integrity" is the master of spin. sure, they don't care about Silverstone, waiting for Germany to excel. Right.
     
  5. motopoint

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    sorry Lads about the spoiler got carried away. RD just makes my blood boil.

    bring on Germany more of the same
     
  6. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    RD would have us believe a bird in the hand is worth less than a half a bird in the bush. Not buyin' it here, mate.
     
  7. SRT Mike

    SRT Mike Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ron has been hanging around Alonso too much :)


    (I know that irritates a few people on here - feel free to flame!)
     
  8. motopoint

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    :) Speaking of Alonso He said the only reason Hamilton is doing well is he is using his data??

    What doyou all think?
     
  9. becker

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  10. PhilNotHill

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    Lewis: I chose a different rear end than Fernando.

    Guess he got a pretty good look at FA's different rear end since he could see it most of the race, but perhaps LH was too far back for it to do him much good! :D Wonder how FA liked looking at Kimi's rear most of the day. :D
     
  11. moretti

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    they could have been looking at 2 red rear ends if Schumassa hadn't stalled :(

    Shame Phil couldn't get past Rubik's Cube
     
  12. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Rubiks Cube brillant LOL


     
  13. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 :)

    BTW, latest quote from Stepney:

    “I categorically deny that I copied them [the documents] or that I sent them to Mike Coughlan,” Stepney was quoted as saying yesterday. “I knew I was being watched all the time at the factory and that everything I did or said was being reported back, and that people knew whenever I accessed files on the computer. I have no idea how anything came into Mike’s possession. If he has some documents, they came from another source.”

    The plot thickens......

    Great job today by Kimi.

    Cheers,
    Ian
    PS - The link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2045146.ece
     
  14. bill365

    bill365 F1 Rookie

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    That is patently ridiculous !!!

    "There is not one person at McLaren, That would even consider using data, that belonged to anyone else, that would be unethical!" - Ron Dennis - July 2007 :D
     
  15. PSk

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    I've said that all along ... definitely helps that is for sure.

    And this time RD's comments are plain rediculous :D
    Pete
     
  16. moretti

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    using the word "patent" could be very dangerous around here Bill :D
     
  17. vroomgt

    vroomgt Formula 3

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    Alonso looked good but really wasn't. He noticeably was able to close up on Kimi when need the end of Hamilton's first stint.

    Kimi was clearly held up at this point.

    That's how Alonso came out in front after the first round of stops absolutely nothing else there.
     
  18. PSk

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    By LH ... and thus Alonso was able to close up because LH was slower than Alonso ...

    Alonso was simply faster than LH today, fact!. But the Ferraris definitely had the car advantage.
    Pete
     
  19. Chaos

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    consider this question guys - who owns Mclaren.
    once you know the answer you might (or probably wont) reconsider why this may have been said.

    and whilst Kimi did win (and by a nice margin over LH) it wasnt what could be called "a whipping in your back yard"

    fact - LH outqualified both SF drivers
    fact - both LH and FA beat Massa
    fact - both teams scored exactly the same number of points.

    now i havent seen the race (spent the day at wimbledon) so my comments are based on reviews on various sport sites and news reports. But what is undeniabke is that LH took another podium finish in what is a dream start to his rookie year in ANYONES book.
     
  20. barbazza

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    Not half as much as Ralf liked looking at it before the race...
     
  21. vroomgt

    vroomgt Formula 3

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    Clearly. No argument here.
     
  22. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Guys we have again played journo and not taken all the facts in, and actually what Ron said.

    The McLaren team backed off on their engines once they realised that they had no hope in winning. I say fair enough, and Ron makes it very clear they did this not as an excuse but in a "we were not going to win anyway" attitude.

    Think about it, 2nd place even if a lap down is still 2nd place ... thus McLaren were playing smart.

    Get rid of the 2 race engine rule ...
    Pete
     
  23. barbazza

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    Amen to that!
     
  24. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Nick, please don't enter facts here , we don't like them ok ?? :)

    and I've heard on the grapevine that Ferrari are grooming monkeys as drivers so they can save on wages , Enzo never liked his drivers all that much and reckoned it was always the car and this will be their way of proving it

    outsourcing at it's finest :)
     
  25. PhilNotHill

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    My wife, who is always right about everything, thinks F1 should do away with the 2 races per engine rule too. :D
     

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