Dear Ferraristi, I want to change the brake fluid in my 91 TR. I only use the car for the street. I've heard many people mention ATE super blue. Is that a fluid to go with? Shelton Ferrari changed my fluid last year with some sort of Castrol. I'm not really a fan of Castrol products.....unless ya'll say that's the way to go. Please let me know Shamile Freeze...Miami Vice !
Where'd all these dead kittens come from? I've been using Valvoline Synpower DOT3/4 (inexpensive, more than adequate for street specs, readily available), but do a search at the old site on "valvoline synpower" (AND mode; parts of words) -- should get you ~60 relevant threads with many brands/data discussed.
I'm a fan of Castrol and use their range for most things. Castrol Response DOT 5.1 is great. Even ok for mild track use. Use it on ABS or conventional without concern or problem. Ultimate track use I prefer Brembo 600, but it has a 6 month life so not ideal for street use.
I'm with steve and I race with it and change it frequently. no fade no problems. It is cheap as bottled water and every kragen in california has it.
Yup, that's the stuff I have been using for the past four or five years... BTW, up in the NW Kragen is known as "Schuck's". GI Joe's is the place where I can find the big quart size bottles.
MOTUL, MOTUL, MOTUL, MOTUL, MOTUL, MOTUL. I can't say it enough. The only thing I'd ever think about putting in a car that's going to be run hard. When I used to work on Forumula Atlantics, about ten years ago now, it was head and sholders above the rest. We never had a problem with boiling. Even on the street tracks, Toronto and such.
Valvoline Synpower DOT3/4 here as well. Use on both street and track. The other fluid I've heard used here for track purposes is the Ford Heavy Duty brake fluid. Do a search of the archives and you will find plenty of info on this. Dom
Valvoline Synpower here for aggressive street and mild track 3 or 4 times a year. I change it completely every 12-18 months, and I do a "turkey baster" remove-and-replace procedure at the reservoir before each track event.
Someone posted some very informative info on this previously (hint to use the search function). Brembo 600 is the best for all out perfromance, but has a very short shelf life. Motul 600 is almost as good and has a better shelf life. Castrol SRF is as good as Motul 600 when new, but will be almost as good 12 months later, where the Motul 600 will have deteriorated considerable and the Brembo will be unusable. I always swore by Motul 600, but after seeing Phils info I will be spending the extra for Castrol SRF next time around, as I only change fluid annually. Why would you use anything but the best for your brakes?? Edit: Here is the link; http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36060&highlight=brembo+600+motul+castrol+srf
Stephen, I didn't mention SRF. The Castrol Response 5.1 is a really good standard road fluid that is quite good on track. It is particularly thin when cold, which makes it good for bleeding in ABS cars. It's about AU$20/litre The SRF is a great track fluid. One of the best, but costs AU$160/litre. If you're not going on the track, there's no need to use SRF.
Phil using your name was a typo as I originally thought you were the author of the info in the linked thread. Good info that shows technically the difference between the fluids. I stand by my comment, given a cost of $200AUD as a yearly cost for the best quality fluid, why would you care about the nominal savings?
Oh ok, well some people do like to keep costs down. You can get "no name" brake fluid for AU$8 litre if you shop around. The Response is what I put in most of my jobs unless requested otherwise.
Hi all, I posted this info in a 550 brake thread a couple of weeks ago... "We have three fluids depending on what you want to do. Let me first explain the way fluids are rated. There is a dry boiling point and a wet boiling point. Dry means fresh from the can. Wet means there is some moisture(water, hence "wet") in the system. If you have a race car and change the fluid after every race, you only have to worry about the dry boiling point number. If this is the case, Brembo LCF600 is the best. It has the highest boiling point at 601F. It's wet boiling point is 399F. If you seriously beat the car on the track(or street for that matter) but never change the fluid(most club racers), Castrol SRF is the best option. Any system will absorb water from the atmosphere. It seems amazing that moisture can be absorbed from the air into a "sealed" system but it does. Castrol SRF has a dry temp of 590F and an unbelievable wet boiling point of 518F. The drawback? It's really expensive. The Motul 600 is a great all around choice for the vast majority. Dry temp is 594F, wet is 421F, and price is excellent. Brembo LCF600 is $17 for 1/2 liter Castrol SRF is $65 for 1 liter Motul RBF600 is $14 for 1/2 liter" I'd like to add that the ATE Super Blue and it's companion Typ200 are nice street fluids from the point that one is blue in color and the other is amber. Makes it a little easier to know when you've done a complete flush. The downside is the performance isn't what the Motul is. Dry boiling is 536F and wet is 396F. Price is about half of the others. Numbers don't lie Hope this helps Thanks, Martin
I'm purely street use, alternate ATE Super Blue with either Valvoline Synpower DOT3/4 or CASTROL response DOT 5.1 for the color contrast. Wish I could just find a DOT 3/4 fluid compatible blue or green dye, then wouldn't have to go locating the ATE Super Blue. These are cheap enough that I could do a fluid change whenever I tracked the car and probably still be ahead.
Dear Ferraristi, Wow, Thank you for all your responses. This is why I love this site! I think I will go with the Valvoline Synthpower stuff. I only use the car for the street and going back and forth between my homes in FL and GA. I've even seen this stuff at discount auto parts ( ha ha ha....stuff for a Ferrari from discount ) Do they have timing belts?