What do u think of Hamilton?*spoilers*

Why do you guys care so much about what some motorsport journalists quote him saying? I watch F1 for the amazing machinery, and the drama that's produced on track, not some " he said she said" BS that's published on some obscure motoring website.

 

Here's a video of his manouvre:

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-1967682781949429734&q=hamilton+france&ei=VQlgSKOaC4LIjALW_8QT&hl=nl

To me it's clear that he hadn't clearly passed Vettel and needed the excursion to gain an advantage.

 

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That's how I saw it too. I do think he passed Vettle before the corner, but he went in too hard. Had that drive off not been there, he would have hit grass or gravel, and I'm sure that would have cost him positions too. Too me that's an advantage.

 

you do or you wouldn't keep replying

he's a wanker because he's a wanker, got nothing to do with being a Brit, I thought Montoya was a tosser as well, is that because he is Columbian, I thought FA was a tosser after he won his first WDC, is that because he is Spanish.

Seriously, you are taking this personally and just making it harder for the kid, I like the way he drives but just because he's in one of the best cars on the grid and is at the pointy end doesn't make him great, exceptional but not great

the car maketh the man, just look at how many races DC or Rubens won in great cars and yet where are they today, are they hopeless ? I don't think so, well in DC's case maybe

or how about JV , he won a WDC as did DH, both average compared to MS but they had a great car

and for those that say you have to be a pig to be a champion just take this situation :

you make your own car
you are a previous WDC
you hire a good driver for #2 seat
at the end of the year you and he have a chance to win the WDC
do you issue orders that you are to win ?
if you are Jack Brabham you don't !!

champion and humility with fairness ... .LH is a tosspot in comparison and not as good either as a person or driver

and RD is Lucifer, I thought we established that last year

 

Similar situations with coming into F1 with a top car. Right now, he will be lucky to be JV, because JV won a championship.

 

Is looking more and more like a one hit wonder... Last year he hit, the future is not looking as good. Hopefully he will do better than
Gary Numan and his hit "Cars".. I really wonder how well he would have hit last year if McLaren hadn't been driving Ferrari cars!

 

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lest we forget

 

Haven't we been saying that anyone can win, driving a Ferrari?

I think Steve hit it back on page 2: The press told Lewis he could walk on water, then left him in the middle of the lake.

 

BS

He's contracted with Mclaren for at least another 5 years. Mclaren will most likely not sink to the level of competitiveness BAR was at, within that time. He'll have ample opportunity to win races and challenge for the WDC within the next 5 years.

The bias is strong with this one...

 

How many of you have seen LH around the race?? Is he a good driver yes, but watch him and his dad behind the fence in the Mcl motor home.. They sit together and LH is always getting talked to , always looking like he is getting s**t from dad.. Have seen it 4 times this year.. Last year only near the end.. Let the guy have fun and race, if hes that good he will rise to the top if he chokes blame dad.. Just my two cents..

 

I do not think Hamilton pulled a kamikaze move into the turn with no hope of making it... he was in control of his car, braking appropriately then started to lose it, but the other car was there, so he had to go more straight. He didn't cut straight over the chicane, he was just up over the curb with both wheels.

Again, totally a judgement call, but I believe he did not deserve the penalty as he was in front and in control prior to the chicane. In my view, I have seen much worse transgressions let slide without as harsh a penalty.

As for what Lewis must do, frankly I think all he needs to do is to perform. He can be the most arrogant SOB (and I don't think he is, mind you) he wants to be and what does it matter? As for Montoya, I think his problem was not his 'tude - he was a pretty good driver but just not good enough to get him the kind of drive he thought he deserved. As for Alonso, his driving will probably get him into a Ferrari.

 

Sorry, but it is true.

There has been more quips, hate, angst, envy, taunting, seething, and basking in his misfortune directed at Lewis Hamilton than *any* other driver on the grid.

Does Lewis make more mistakes? Before anyone says yes - does he *really*? More than Sato? More than Glock? More than Nakajima? More than Piquet? It could hardly be said that Lewis makes more mistakes than any of these guys, yet there is more angst vented at Lewis than anyone else. Why? Because he's a great driver.

 

1) Yes I have raced, and muscling in front of someone then praying I made the turn was something I did (and do) quite a lot, as I think most drivers do. The vast majority of my passes were under braking. I do not think it is possible for there to be an absolute clear cut case either way on this penalty. It's not Hamilton-apologizing either. He deserved the penalty from the last race. This one... not so much.

3) Excuse me but in a sport where the president (who bangs groups of hookers dressed in nazi sex parties for fun) sets up a committee to sell the commercial rights of the sport to his buddy, who then kicks him back a $300 MILLION dollar "thank you" gift, and such behaviour goes unchallenged, and where the same guy imposes a $100 million fine (the biggest ever in any sport for all time) for bringing the sport into disrepute but really being on a vendetta against a guy he hates - well, I don't think such a sport is exactly clean when it comes to back room deals and such stuff. I am absolutely sure that the FIA (i.e. Max) fiddles with the numbers and rules and penalties so as to keep the competitors as close as possible, and also expresses some of his own biases through his penalties and favors. I would not at all be surprised if it was expressed to McLaren that it would be very bad for them to win after Lewis and Alonso being allowed to retain their WDC points was to be considered a gift from heaven.

4) LOL - same question for you - have you ever been on a track? I've never felt the need to be Mr. Nice Guy on track. Sorry, I am a competitor. I am there to dominate and crush every opponent I can, if I can. If I can slightly outbrake you and bully you into being my beyatch, that's what is going to happen. And I am sure the F1 drivers are that way times a million. Schumi was famous for the "Schumi chop" - a great move! Thinking that drivers should be generous and only pass people politely and never cut in front of people is like thinking that soldiers should shoot the enemy when they've beaten them fair and square in equally-opportunistic combat. It just doesn't work that way.

 

Absolutely, positively, DEAD NUTS on target.

Great post! He's young, aggressive, and thinks he's the best out there. He's feeling frustrated by circumstance, but with maturity he will learn that the circumstances are of his own doing.

 

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That's all it is. Wait till he calms down a bit and becomes more consistent, he'll be an even bigger force to be reckoned with.

 

In all likely hood, he will have a great chance of winning a championship. He still has yet to do so. No no one should be crowned a champion until they have it.

 

Does Lewis get a lot more hype, press, and a better, far more capable car and team than Sato? Glock? Nakajima? Piquet?
Would this cause the spotlight to be on him more? Yes.
He has to take the negative that comes with all of that hype. He was getting a lot of pmp by the British media, they anointed him king. He basked in the attention. With all of that attention, comes great expectations and a lot of pressure. Now that people are expecting him to win it all, unfairly or not, he seems be cracking under pressure.

 

Yes probably.

What Lewis needs to do is read a racing handbook and learn the rules. I cannot excuse a driver reaching F1, the supposed top of motorsport, and not knowing basic rules ... and then when they go against him complaining about the rules.

He SHOULD know the rules like the back of his hand ... like all the other drivers! When I got my club license I had to sit a written test on the rules and no license if I could not pass this test ... why not Lewis?
Pete

 

Absolutely not. The quips, hate, angst, envy, taunting, seething, and basking in his misfortune directed on this board at Fernando Alonso while he was putting up with the shennanigans of Ron, Lewis, and Lewis's daaaaaady have been WAY more abundant, vicious, and prolonged than the relatively mild criticism directed at wonderboy.