What is the cheapest F40 for sale WW at the moment?

I think the math has changed on these now, 10+ years ago there were cheap examples in worse condition but now owners are prepared to spend good money to bring the cars up to scratch to ensure a high sale price

 

Damn! In 2016 during the the "Duemila Ruote" auction, chassis ZFFGJ34B000091464 had an initial estimate of 725k-875k EUR but ended up selling for €1,030,400! Back then people thought it was an outrageous value... The car had 26k km and was in an incredible condition.

 

I believe every example that has fried in recent years has, or is being fully rebuilt.

The last ones up for sale was the ex Dave Gilmour car in Europe and the ex bubble roof car, that was withdrawn from the auction when its past caught up with it. Believed to be owned buy the proprietor of Eurospares.

No news of the more recent dodgy blue one in the UK.

 

It isn't.

The thing you have to realize is that the Private Sales market fir F40s is at least as big as the Public Sales market, so if you simply read the current posted Ads, you're not going to see the full picture, in fact I can say with confidence that more F40s change hands privately than publicly, we should know as most of our business is Private Treaty.

There's an F40 which looks superb as a result of a full refurbishment and is completely standard but has close to 62,000 miles (100,000 kilometers) which can probably be purchased for @ $1,200,000 based on recent conversations with the owner.

On March 9th I was offered a 1991 with 80,000 kms for 1,200,000 Euros or $1,323,770, the car is standard and unmodified and apart from the high miles, and the front hood has been repainted.

Those are 2 examples of standard cars at the lower end.

 

He did, on the March 9th car. It's in the F40 Pictures thread.

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I aggregate and archive major collector car classifieds (among other data) - this car you linked was priced at 1,558,500 CHF/1,695,300 USD as of 6mo ago, which is the floor I have as well over the last 6mo. However, with that price being increased, the other floor was a listing at 1,325,000 GBP/1,799,500 USD as of 1mo ago which has since been delisted. Private seller in the UK, originally UK-supplied, 1989 model, 3 owners, non-cat, non-adjust, recent major service, 11,430 km, don't have the chassis #.

I asked David Gizzi of Euro-Classics a question similar to this last year, specifically about the F40 actually - what he believed the ratio was of auction-sold F40s to directly-sold F40s (via dealer or private). He threw out a ballpark figure of 10:1 in favor of the direct sales, of course much of which are public listings with 'Price on Request' or totally private/unadvertised transactions - in other words, figures unavailable to the public. Could be an exaggerated ratio (or not), but an educated perspective worth sharing regardless - and one which lines up with Joe's comment.

 

The 2 examples I gave aren't compromised in the sense of a car that has been irreversibly modified or has an identity crisis, they are perfectly good well-maintained cars which simply have more miles than average.

This isn't the right venue to advertise cars for sale privately, their conveyance is preferred by their owners to be private as the Private Treaty name implies, what we do is share full details of those cars in our private mail-out to our existing clients & contacts. After the car is sold we might log a selection of some (but not all - some clients request total privacy or non-disclosure) of the cars here https://joesackeyclassics.com/cars/ or here https://www.instagram.com/joesackeyclassics/

When it comes to public sales, to cater to clients who want to sell their car's publicly, my son recently got us started in a successful online auction platform https://www.sackeyandco.com/ and we do the advertising here https://www.instagram.com/sackeyandco/ and other places online besides, we log the sales here https://www.sackeyandco.com/results , watch for the upcoming F40s.

No, that's another F40 which belongs to @noncatnonadjust and isn't for sale, there are a surprising number of high-mileage F40s.

The car for sale at Affolter in Switzerland has been for sale for well over a year with it's for sale price always increasing, IMO it isn't seriously for sale.

As another example, in December just 3 months ago, I just sold the Classiched 85944 with just over 20,000 miles for $1,600,000 (the new owner is cool and won't mind my mentioning - he scored) plus 5% commissions to us. It has just completed a major service at Ferrari of Newport Beach including new fuel cells, the whole thing took from January 30th to now, so around 8 weeks, I'll see it on Thursday and post some better detail images of it in this section.

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Apologies I thought you were referring to this other F40 post I made of a car owned by @noncatnonadjust that isn't for sale https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148421276/

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Sounds like a great opportunity for an enthusiast who wants to enjoy their car without hesitation. Those prices offers the ability to drive the cars without worrying about adding miles and restore it down the road and still be into the cars for well below what a low mile car commands today. Once it’s restored the miles are somewhat irrelevant.

 

My phone isn't ringing any more than it normally does, true these high-mileage cars represent nice opportunities for some, but in a market undeniably dominated by the influence of mileage, when people call they often want lower mileage cars, cars with an interesting provenance, or Lexan sliding windows cars and are willing to pay up for all those. And sometimes they want other cars besides F40s.

 

Things have not changed. the comparison between F40's and a 275 with regard to mileage is light and day.. the vast percentage of 275's and 250's have been subject to full restorations and mileage basically starts again... with the F40.. people steer clear of rebuilt cars.. .. As Joe has pointed out mileage is not everything.. but market is "dominated by the influence of mileage".. rightly or wrongly this is true.. I was surprised by the spread of 100 % between higher mileage cars and low mileage cars..

 

For a bit of fun, and to make us all cry, what are the lowest known prices F40s dipped to in your country during their lifespan?

I recall some going below £150,000 here in the UK for a couple of years.

 

£125,000 there was a company called specialist cars... 2001.... that had 3 for sale all sub 5k miles

 

Let’s re visit in 10 years.. my guess is nothing has changed.. mileage will be just as important as it is now.,