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What is the reason for a Maserati Hypercar?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by merstheman, Mar 27, 2013.

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  1. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    Considering there have been a few reports of a successor to the MC12 based on the LaFerrari arriving in 2015, I've been asking myself this question: Why?

    I'm not trying to start any polemic issue here, it's really a expression of curiosity regarding the decision to re-clothe an already amazing car into a similar machine with another brand identity. I understand making money is the final goal, as it always is, but I'm thinking a little further - why is FIAT worried about having a Maserati hypercar when they are so clearly trying to position the brand away from Ferrari and closer to the higher end German marques, and Jaguar. Will the LaMaserati (sorry, couldn't help myself) feature more creature comforts than LaFerrari? Or will they pull an MC12 and make it rawer?

    The MC12 is a curious car, very impractical on the street and in many ways very separate from Maserati's current ethos. It may harken back to the old days when Maserati was a force in racing, or maybe they just made it so they could take the Enzo racing without having to actually bring Ferrari back into a GT racing environment. Probably a mix of both, but if it made little sense then it makes even less sense now for them to come up with a similar car.

    On the other hand we are hearing about them wanting to come into Grand Am with SCG, so that may be a direction they are heading towards, again, with renewed enthusiasm.

    Perhaps the hyper Maserati is what will end up from the idea of the second LaFerrari TOOLFAN has been talking about...

    What do you guys think? Will the hyper Maserati be another MC12, or will they make it a more comfortable LaFerrari? Maybe it's an excuse to clothe LaFerrari in a Pininfarina body? (OK that last one was tongue-in-cheek)

    (Sorry if this ultimately belongs in the Maserati section - I felt it was as much a discussion of the LaFerrari's future as a Maserati-specific one, which is why I put it here. Please feel free to move it to the Maserati forum if appropriate.)
     
  2. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    They want to go from 5k cars to 15k cars per year. Having an flagship car bring a lot of exposure to the brand (Media is already talking about it..). For them, it will be a win-win. The Car will not cost a fortune to develop and will most likely sell out fast. It will also be in every car magazine and TV show. Not bad to bring more exposure to your brand.

    Since i dont know much more about the car, i dont know if they will go racing again (Which also helps brand image).
     
  3. REALZEUS

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    #3 REALZEUS, Mar 27, 2013
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    In the case of the MC12, I reckon that the Ferrari/Maserati top brass (the two companies were tied back then) felt that in the Enzo they had a great machine with huge racing potential. As Ferrari was not willing to go GT racing though, they gave that honour to Maserati. That way the Trident marque blitzed the opposition at the tracks (recapturing some of its old fame) and also sold a few of those road cars that surely made a difference in its coffers. Win-win situation.

    The new Maserati hypercar, if it happens, is a much more puzzling notion. Perhaps a cheaper LaFerrari alternative in order to amortise the development costs? Or just a wild rumour that will never materialise?
     
  4. SlvSurfer

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    They want to make money.

    I have no doubt they will make it a worthy replacement for the MC12.

    Probably also they want to make a hyper car with no KERS just for the hell of it.

    Plus it will keep the Maserati brand relevant.
     
  5. JeremyJon

    JeremyJon F1 Veteran

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    because they can, basically!

    why does mansory sell the ungawdly utter garbage they do? $$
     
  6. DeSoto

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    Profit and brand awareness, small investment. Why not?
     
  7. 4th_gear

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    #7 4th_gear, Mar 27, 2013
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    I come from a marketing background amongst other things. Ferrari has very valid reasons for making cars like the MC12.

    Maserati is a separate brand, with an illustrious history, which is even longer than that of Ferrari's. Ferrari also invested a great deal of money and effort to own and rebuild the brand. It's real money. Doing cars like the MC12 in a slightly different way allows Ferrari to retain Maserati customers and attract others with price points and/or brand features not or cannot be offered by Ferrari products. Doing so also leverages their ability to lower costs on common facilities, staff, components and materials.

    Ferrari is also part of Fiat and is also involved with the Alfa Romeo brand, in a similar manner but with different products.

    From the marketing perspective, brands with strong brand recognition and high price points often need to compete with lower image brands offering cheaper upstart products. The high end brand cannot lower its prices because it erodes the brand so marketing people use what we call "fighting brands", a separate recognized brand or label that shares some of its parent's DNA but markets less expensive, less opulent products. This allows the parent brand to compete without discounting. It also allows it to capture young buyers of less expensive cars and to keep them as they upgrade, through the various brands in the Fiat family of vehicles.

    Fiat has formidable brands. Cars like the MC12 lend credibility and brand separation when viewed next to Ferrari products. It essentially tells people that Maserati does deploy formidable technology but in different ways than Ferrari and at lower costs but they also do not feel like Ferraris and so do not compete directly with Ferrari. In fact, Ferrari customers may also want to own a GranTurismo and/or Quattroporte because they can't find products like that in the Ferrari line. Ditto with Alfa Romeo, Fiat and even Chrysler. I think Fiat is quite clever and potentially very formidable when it comes to its marketing arsenal.
     
  8. merstheman

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    Interesting points made by all. Thank you for the answers. I suppose I had been looking at FIAT's marketing strategy for Maserati a little too narrowly. Makes more sense to me now.
     
  9. TexasF355F1

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    I would add, and why the hell not. :D
     
  10. JeremyJon

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    yes :) ...I mean did the MC12 make 'better' sense than the Enzo somehow?!
     
  11. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    To me, it made worse, which is one of the reasons I asked the question.
     
  12. JeremyJon

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    agreed ....my humor there was subtle sarcasm :)
     
  13. therryzsx

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    #13 therryzsx, Mar 28, 2013
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    I hope car will be much lighter than laFerrari, no KERS, roadster
     
  14. Mr. Francesco

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    This basically sums up my thoughts.

    In the short-term, I would imagine that they will lose money on this project.
     

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