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What is the safest way to jack up a 360 ??

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  1. Fearless Shifter

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    I have read the manual but have any of you have some creative and safe ideas ?? Thanks
     
  2. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    Are you worried about something in particular?

    What works for me (I think there are posts/opinions about this...)
    Using a small piece of wood between the jack and the car (I've heard some use a hockey puck, but that would be a bit high... Maybe one cut in half?),
    I put a side up via the rear living point, and then put a jack stand in front (at the indicated position at the curve behind and back from the front wheel), and an elevated wheel stand/block behind the rear tires.
    I then do the same to the other side
    If I need the rear wheels off, then I'll take the jack and wood cushion to the rear cross frame (towards an end) and carefully lift the rear and slip jacks stands under the rear lifting points.
    Down is a reverse process.
    I use ASCO jack stands... They are like hockey pucks on top, and solid. Standard jack stands aren't great for the flat lifting spots, and could tear things up.
    Anyway, this process takes me about 2 minutes up, and 1 minute down.
     
  3. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    #3 FerrariDublin, Oct 2, 2013
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    As above, save only I generally use the stands under the rear cross member which means I only have to position the jacks (I have two) in the one place to get the car up on four stands. Makes it a simpler and faster process.

    If you haven't already got trolley jacks this is a good one for our cars.

    It can get under the car to the rear lift points (with a hocky puck for damage and slippage prevention) without any difficulty and can lift to a very healthy 780mm.

    The only down side is they are pretty heavy, long and awkward so best suited to a garage with a decent bit of space around the car.

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Sealey-2200HL-2-Ton-High-Lift-Low-Entry-Trolley-Jack-/200402922227?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item2ea8f1eaf3
     
  4. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

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  5. bobp

    bobp Karting

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    Trent,
    When you jack up the front of the car and lift the rear wheel is it hard to match the height of the rear wheel ramp with the front jack height?
    I imagine that when you do the first side up you have the 2 opposite wheels chocked up so they can't roll? My car is a 6 speed standard and there is always a little roll forward and back when raised even in gear.
    Thanks for any insight
    Bob
     
  6. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

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    I only use one jack point. So I would state "When I jack up the LEFT or RIGHT" side of the car, not the front or back. I think we agree, just making it clear.

    The jack height is equal to enough gap between the ground and the REAR tire to insert the Rino Ramp. The front height is irrelevant because the jack stand I put under it is adjustable.

    I do not rely on my transmission or ebrake to prevent my car taking my life. I do use blocks under the front wheels, aways. You block the tire on the opposite side as you are jacking. Garages are slightly slanted to the exit to make water run out, so I chock the direction it tends to roll.

    Did I at all answer your question?
     
  7. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    I think blocking is just generally good practice. I admittedly do skip sometimes depending on the situation. *guilty look* If I am not using the rear cross-member (i.e., not removing the rear wheels... I often don't block on an even surface because its not going to fall off of the flat jack point, and I quickly get it back down on the rear wheel where it can't roll (there is a lip on the wheel ramp/block thing that I use)...
     
  8. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    Actually I've just realised that the link I posted was for a slightly different jack so I've amended it now and posted there and here the correct link for the jacks I use.

    These ones have a lower (80mm) minimum saddle height but have the same max height (almost 800mm)

    Sealey 2200HL 2 TON High Lift LOW Entry Trolley Jack | eBay
     
  9. bobp

    bobp Karting

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    Trent,
    You can jack from the rear jacking point high enough to get a jack stand under the front jack point? Then you lower the car onto the ramp and unbolt the splash shield on that side, once shield has fallen down put the extra stand at the rear jack point, the repeat on side B?
     
  10. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

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    Yes, if you have a decent low profile aluminum floor jack. I paid $80 for mine at harbor freight. Just make sure it will fit under your car ;) Measure twice, buy once!

    Minimum clearance 3.5
    Max jack height 17 5/8

    Yes, exactly.
     
  11. bobp

    bobp Karting

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    Got it,
    Thanks alot.
     
  12. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #12 Kevin Rev'n, Oct 2, 2013
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    There was a recent thread I was reading on this and there were some comments about how stiff the car is that when you are jacking one end the other comes up. I don think I like this, with the creaking and stresses, even if it's designed to take it. Someone posted that they use two jacks on one side and bring the whole side up together using front and rear points simultaneously. I could see myself doing this but then there is the transition to stands to free the wheels for maintenance.

    There is a guy who invented a great solution for this dilemma. I will probably go this route before too long.
    http://www.jackpointjackstands.com/
     
  13. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

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    If we are talking about a car you drive, I can assure you that the impacts of hard driving at high speed over uneven pavement creates an order of magnitude more structural stress. If you jack up a car from one point and the cars structure fails, you need a new car anyway.
     
  14. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    Yeah that seems like a bit of crazy paranoia :) that rear point is fairly far forward in a fairly evenly balanced car (~55% rear), it just makes sense that the front end gets lifted at the same time. It would be a wobbly mess otherwise. Also the chassis is designed to accommodate flex.
     
  15. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    C'mon, where else could I post this and get some sympathy? LOL I know you guys are probably right but in my man cave I like the idea of spending another 200 bucks and getting a second jack.

    Actually I have little experience to draw upon since up to this point in my life I was only a vintage car guy and I don't like pops and creaks when I am in my garage and manipulating a car so I may be coming from the wrong direction.
     
  16. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    Hey man, by all means gizmo-up! My jack makes more noise than the car, doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary.

    Get a lift- that's the true playa thing to do. (Which I have thought about, but I think it would take about 5x the time to setup and lift the car... and my garage is tiny!)
     
  17. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Oh yeah I agree with the time to "get her up". I would be all over a max jax. MaxJax Portable Two-Post Lifting System by Dannmar

    but I am sure that it would snowball into slab work to make sure I am structurally sound and then my garage is tight too so manipulating them around and planning for the work takes all the fun out of it, at least on paper. :-(
     
  18. BrettC

    BrettC Formula 3

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    I just got a lift...installing the 9000lb beauty on Friday...$1400 plus freight...

    TP9KAC Car Lift | North American Auto Equipment
     

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