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What is wrong with New York Tri-State?

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  1. AJS328

    AJS328 F1 Veteran
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    Gary,

    While I can appreciate your argument, I don't think that the "Howard Stern Show" analogy works in this case. Howard Stern (who I also like) is just one unique morning show in a sea of many. If you are not into porno, strippers, bathroom humor, or are even remotely "PC", you just don't go there. F-Chat, on the other hand, is first and foremost, a Ferrari enthusiast community. You wouldn't listen to Howard Stern for tips on keeping your garden in order or for easy listening music. You listen to that show to laugh, plain and simple. Conversely, you wouldn't expect to go on F-Chat (a Ferrari forum) to hear ebonics or conversations that are almost unintelligeable (to those not in the know). Although the EC has claimed the NY/Tri-State region as their own, there are tons of other enthusiasts that live in NJ/NY/CT that probably feel completely alienated when they enter this section of the site. They can't relate to the lingo (or wouldn't want to) and they may feel like they are going to get attacked for not driving every day or something like that. Are you going to tell them that they should just switch forums so they don't have to see it? This is their region too.
     
  2. zjpj

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    Gary, I think you are missing the larger picture. Your Howard Stern example works because you can change the channel - there are others to listen to. By contrast, there is only one NYTS section. It is a forum for all tri-staters. What I don't think anyone wants - perhaps you do? - is for there to be enough postings in NYTS that tri-staters find objectionable that they won't come into the section at all. I agree that we should ignore posts we find objectionable. I do it all the time. But what I think some people seem to be saying here is that we should all be free to be ourselves, but not to the point that it jeopardizes the strength of the larger community. While what makes the EC great is its small numbers of people who know each other, what would make NYTS great is large numbers - bringing together everyone who loves Ferrari in the New York Tri State. This is why I think we can all co-exist. And all it means is being mindful that we are not the only ones here on F-Chat.
     
  3. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    Augustine, get out of my mind!
     
  4. titanium360

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    once again i agree with some statements that Whart has risen but at the same time disagree with many,

    1- you are continuing to generalize all the ec members, i am an ec member and not hostile to ferrari chat and on the other hand like it as much as any other website. this website helped me buy my first ferrari and found me good friends for life. if you have a problem with the conduct of some ec members then you need to point the finger at them and not all the members

    2- the statement "dAt b rAinpU$sy wIt dEm gAraGe quEens. u eC or vAgiNa?"
    your translation to english might be different than mine and again you are generliazing your take to everyone elses. when i read that statement i translate it as follows: would you want to have a garage queen car or are you going to drive it.


    You keep on saying that wether EC is real or fake, how do you know it is not for real. fyi it is very much real and most of the members are for real and have a passion for our cars and ferraris. so when you state if EC is real or not then you are confronting everyone on the EC to be fake. if you have an issue with a member or members of this site or any other sie why don't you confront them directly and not generalize to provoke a post like mine.

    Rob , this is a great site and we all enjoy and it will never be replaced. my hats off to Sam as well for keeping everyone in check and sorry to see him get into the middle of all this nonsense.
     
  5. AJS328

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    fukin scary dude.
     
  6. Gary Res

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    The Howard Stern reference was that people can tune in or tune out. If you don't like what the guy posts, move to another post. The ebonics/gangsta thing does nothing for me. So I would choose not to respond and move to a new thread that may appeal to me. The Porno stuff with Stern has nothing to do with the message that I stated. The message again is respond to where and what you want, and if you don't like what someone wrote, Ignore it. Sometimes when you ignore things, they tend to dissappear by themselves.
     
  7. Gary Res

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    That is scary. I think I quoted the wrong one!
     
  8. whart

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    Titanium: I think you misunderstand what i meant when i referred to the 'real' EC:

    You said "You keep on saying that wether EC is real or fake, how do you know it is not for real. fyi it is very much real and most of the members are for real and have a passion for our cars and ferraris. so when you state if EC is real or not then you are confronting everyone on the EC to be fake."

    I'm not making judgements about whether EC is real or fake, or its members are real or fake, i'm going back to a comment that i think Brad made here, as have some others- something to do with the fact that EC refers to Exclusive Community or Colony, not to 'East Coast' and that references to 'EC' here may not necessarily be the same as Brad's EC. (I could try to find these references for you if it is really necessary).
    As to confronting people directly, i think i have in each case, and whenever a point was raised with me, i tried to respond directly, and without undue rancor in each instance. I was not trying to smear all members of Brad's site, in fact the whole reason i made the distinction between real and fake (not the best word choice i'll grant you), wasn't to put anybody down, but simply to use 'EC' to refer to those people who were posting here, on F-Chat, under an EC banner, or defending the points i raised about attitudes here.
    I have no doubt that the EC community that Brad has formed is thriving and i have never wished him, or anybody on it, ill-will. All of my points go to what is posted on this board, not his, and for obvious reasons, your other comments are not going to get any rejoinder from me, since you are free to disagree with my views. Hope that clarifies this, since if you took it as a criticism of Brad's EC, perhaps others did as well, and that was not my intention.
     
  9. Buttuz4eva

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    wow i havent posted this much here in about 6 months so here we go again.

    first when i first started the joke about ec meaning east coast it was funny to some and confusing to others. there was a huge thread that bruce made and i realized that maybe just maybe i am not welcoeme heere by others and that this place can be to pc at times so instead of causing fights all over the place i gave up and started my own colony called the exclusive colony which is based on trust and unity for friends that dont care about how others to pecive them.

    I felt that this wass the right ting to do givin i was not wanted here i subscribed here and i also respect you rob although at some times i dont understand certin rules of yours i think what you have created here is pretty incredible and hold you up to the highest respect.

    now on my site i dont start threads on why fchat sucks actually this information highway you have created is awesome and from time to time i need to find something out i will brouse around not post anymore but brouse.

    I can not control what my friends opinions are and all the time a aggree with them about the people on fchat i think fchat is great place for hard to find info but i dont even converse with my friends on this board because i am not active here enough and i have a million and one other things that need to be done

    bottom line is this there are some places where certin walks of life are not welcome and i feel that this place is one of them for me hell i dont think you wouldnt agree with me this is your site with your rules nd i have my colony with my own rules i will tell you this my colony is tighter because i get rid of negativity instantly there is no room for negativity in my world where fchat is full of it . I kno fchat is a million stronger then ec but i bet if you peiced out all the negative you would have half the members you have now . I understand then u wont have the stats to show your sponsors how huge and great the site is but who cares the negativity on this board rubbs me the wrong way i could only imagine the crazy people that go homwe and beat there wives because they had a argument with some kid .

    or in the cases that i have seen latly i am sure the wives beet them up and therfore they have to feel like a man so they start **** on this forum against the gangsters of the ec....hahahahahah .stoops

    i have infact writen bad things about some fchat people but never have i said one thig bad about you rob nor has anyone i am friends with..

    sam is doing a excellent job

    as far as ghost being a moderator ? why not he is the smartest coolest person on the planet right?>

    eli good lookin out my friend

    TaKe cArE CoMB yOuR haiR
     
  10. ghost

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    Awww, Chris, come on bud. I promise to only ban you once a month.

    Bill, your comments are generally on mark. Kudos to you for keeping the threads civilized.

    Gus / Zach - well articulated posts.

    Rob, you know where I stand on all of this.
     
  11. ghost

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    Brad, you know I luv you too my friend.
     
  12. W00dEar

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    Nothing personal Vik, I just don't think Sam should be replaced, that's all.
     
  13. noahlh

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    This is all just another phase in the development of what I see as one of the most remarkable communities I've ever had the pleasure of participating in. To put it in outrageously nerdy terms, this is our Clone Wars, and we'll all get over it soon. :)

    There are some people who see this whole thing as a novelty, there are others who may take it a bit too seriously (fratty/brotherhood overtones abound), and still others, like myself, who are just glad that fchat/insidetheec have helped make some really, really cool new friends.

    Now let's get done with the bickering/chest-pounding/a$$-paddling/frat-talk and get back to driving.

    nlh
     
  14. Enzo

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    I really never had a problem with you but some of the things you say do not promote unity here causes more of a disruption. I know you are sticking up for your friends and that is fine also. I do the same.

    Take care
     
  15. F5506M

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    Bruce and Woodear are both great guys and an asset to f-chat. They have their differences and that leads to some colorful debates. I think others join in and get a little too serious.

    As far as Sam he is doing a great job moderating and given the opinionated group we are no one else could handle the situation better.

    The EC is a spin-off of f-chat that was created to cater to the needs of people with different passions than just detailing and showing cars. Their passion is more centered around driving their cars and having as many social events as possible. The main difference is people on f-chat are more like friends sharing a common interest. The EC is almost like a band of brothers who will always be there for eachother, anywhere, and anytime more so than friends.
     
  16. lupe

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    To much typing lets do a run!!!!!!!!!!!! Vik set it up player.
     
  17. titanium360

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    rehan does that mean we are brothers with brad? oh no!
     
  18. notoboy

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    I agree with Noah, I think Ferrarichat is a great community, so lets stop bickering and lets "get back to driving."

    David
     
  19. F5506M

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    scary isnt it :D
     
  20. HUTCH91TR

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    ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY !!!! :D :D
    Well said by Noah and Noto. Winter is the time for this stupid bickering crap. This is the time for driving and enjoying the outdoors. See ya on the road fellas!!!
     
  21. idoc

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    Finally!
     
  22. W00dEar

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    Lupe we have a run Saturday, you free?
     
  23. W00dEar

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    So, I posted about our run, Whart attacked me. That's your definition of promoting unity??
     
  24. BWS550

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    THATS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ENZO...THATS WHARTS POST, WHATS YOUR DEFINATION OF UNITY???
     
  25. W00dEar

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    I simply asked him a question, a very legit question that has everything to do with his statement to bradley.
    He can be a grow-up and answer it for himself.
     

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