What kind of bulb are 328 headlights and fogs?

This is when you wished the old site was up. I have the pages saved at home that have all the answers, but I am at work now.

- The headlights are #6024, seven inch round sealed beam, unless replaced with an aftermarket replaceable lens and bulb, which are likely H4.

- I "think" the foglights are H3.

 

This thread should get you started:

HID Headlights for 308/328: Sylvania Xenarc X6024
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17003&highlight=6024

In it, Verell discusses HID foglights he was investigating, as well as his HID headlight solution.


--Mike

 

david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:30 pm:

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Well, I went ahead and disassmbled the thing and sure enough, it IS an H3 bulb....I'm lazy and didn't want to have to do that until I had the replacement bulbs in hand....only took 15 minutes or so...




'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 7:20 pm:

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Yes. 2 litre turbo motor in the 328 body.
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 7:11 pm:

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Peter, is that car the same body style as the 328?
If it is then you should be right....
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 7:08 pm:

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I don't know if this helps in any way, but I have the GTB Turbo Owner's Manual and it states it as a 55W H3.

Now, on this car they use these lights as "Daytime Flashing", not as fog lights...
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 3:43 pm:

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Does anyone know what size it is? Manual just states "55 watt". Called the dealer, and it only lists the Ferrari part number in their book...

If it has the "pigtail" wire on it, then it is the H3, if it doesn't, then it is the H1...

 

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S. Long (Sml)
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Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 3:00 pm:

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Bingo!
Thanks Craig, you saved me alot of time and $$$.
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
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Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 10:49 am:

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If I remember... There are two screws that you reach thru the grill to unscrew. Then you have to pop out the complete fixture from the car. There is at least one (maybe two) "Ball & Socket" (plastic)joint(s), that snap apart when you pry or pull on it. You will have to pull hard to snap them apart! If you look between the grill, you should be able to see this connection.

Hope that helps....
S. Long (Sml)
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Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 9:46 am:

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problem: 1989 328 GTS passenger-side fog light bulb burnt out...unscrewed 2 screws, but the assembly won't come out...can't replace bulb. how do i remove the fog light assembly to get access to the bulb?

 

Modified348ts (Modman)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 4:26 am:

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For those who want the ultimate, don't settle for colored blue xenon bulbs that will eventually blow up or melt your wiring harness, these type of bulbs use filaments that will break. Use true HID with a ballast, your Ferrari will perform to modern day standards 300% better! I have the HID kits available and worth every penny. No more dimming headlights and they consume only 35 watts vs. 80-100 watts like filament bulbs which burns hotter. These HID kits will have a true bluish purple color to them like the Audi's and don't need a burn in time like Phillips and are much better in output. The kits I have is not over a $1000 which they retail for, for my Ferrari friends it's $700.
MADE100 (Noelrp)
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2001 - 1:39 pm:

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I agree with David. Go with Hella or Cibie. You will love it.

I had Cibies on my 944T many years ago and I was impressed.

-noel
david handa (Davehanda)
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 4:52 pm:

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Here is the simple answer. Buy a 7" euro code,(nonsealed beam)replacement lamp. Hella and Cibie are two popular brands. Stick with the standard 55/60w bulb to avoid potential problems with too much amperage draw. These will bolt right in and offer three times the lighting intensity and usefulness of beam pattern. The upgrade will cost you about $75.

Here is a source to get the Hella:
http://catalog.com/susq/hella/headlamp.htm

You will not be disapointed.

Dave
78 308 GTS
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 4:12 pm:

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Jim,

What I did was to buy a bulb/headlight from here:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=52579&BQ=jcw2
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=35925

because it was easier to mailorder. I did like these headlights because they had a sharp cutoff vertically and a rise to the right side. Only rarely do people flash me because they think I have my brights on -- especially happens when coming over a rise or when I hit a bump.

I'm not sure what is standard for your car. I used an H4 but I have an '86 Euro and it uses the seperate bulbs. You can convert yours with the above setup. If you use a headlight with an H4 bulb, it should fit on a sealed beam connector(if that's what you have).

Or you could get this HID conversion: http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jhtml?CATID=158282&BQ=jcw2
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 3:51 pm:

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Well if you want to spend $1100 get the xenon/hid
or buy what I bought at autobulbdepot for a $150 and you can always upgrade your bulb selection at a later time.
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 3:48 pm:

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You are correct Craig, what I posted was Xenon/HID facts which are the one's that need ballasts/ igniters as part of system.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 3:48 pm:

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Ok, so now back to the original question. What the hell do I buy for my 328?
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 3:04 pm:

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Paul,

What you say is true for HID lamps but you can get Xenon gas regular lamps with filaments. A lot of people mistake these for the HID because of the term "Xenon", so places that sell them, sell a lot for that reason. This is probably what you got Mark.

Look here: http://www.demandmotorsports.com/productpage32.html?source=goto/

In spite of that, a true xenon filled filament lamp will burn brighter (hotter) and emit more light in the blue spectrum so most people will think they have the expensive ones (HID). Since the HID type can cost thousands of dollars, most people settle for the cheaper version....
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 10:44 am:

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XENON FACTS

Xenon / HID bulbs do not use a filament like halogen bulb,
but creates light by zapping an arc between two electrodes.
This arc excites gases, igniting metallic salts. The product of
this reaction is intense white light.
Xenon / HID has power consumption of 3.5 amps constant
draw compared to approximately 10 amps drawn from a standard
halogen light bulb.
Xenon / HID bulb life is an average of 3000 hours compared to the
halogen's 750 hour life, and is not effected by vibration.
Xenon / HID Xenon / HID produces a color temperature of 4300
degrees Kelvin verses 2800 degrees Kelvin from a standard halogen
bulb. For comparison, the earth's sun has a color temperature of
5200 degrees Kelvin.
Xenon / HID output is approximately 3200 lumens compared to 750
lumens in a standard halogen bulb, resulting in over three times the
light output.

http://www3.security-one.com/ssl2000/machid/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=cat01&cart_id=
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 6:53 am:

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"Xenon" refers to the inert gas used in the lamp. Using an inert gas like xenon allows a higher filament temperature without depositing the metal back on the inside of the bulb. Because of the higher temperature filament, the light looks whiter(or in somes cases almose blue). A lot of places actually sell xenon bulbs as well as xenon look-a-likes (bluish color light) with blue tinted glass.
Mark McKenzie (Redcar)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 8:24 pm:

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I bought "xenon" low beams for my 540i and 348ts on line from a BMW Club guy, named, I think Jimmy Z??

http://www.geocities.com/jimmy540i/

Now I'm wondering if they're really xenon, as there was no rewiring, just plug'em in. They're a nice crisp bluish color, but really not that bright. I hope they're not taxing my electrical system. The Ferrari especially, I think the BMW can take care of itself.

Anybody know anything about these?? Even if they're not xenon, they work well, and I was planning to do the highs and fogs.

Thanks, Mark
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 4:39 pm:

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This is the autobulbdepot Item you are looking for, it will replace your sealed beams (that's what was on my 308) with replaceable bulb type lens. Part# IP 9002........ the 60/55 = 110/100 will not overload the wiring on a 308.
Great system!! I put them in a year ago!!!!

H4 Conversions for 7" round high/low beam lamps
(replaces H6024 halogen or 6014 incandescent sealed beams)
Single Lamp

Item # Description Sugg List Price Click to order
IP92000 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion, 7" Round (single IPF conversion lamp-no bulb) $48.00 $39.00

Conversion Kits (2 lamps, 2 bulbs)

Item # Description Sugg List Price Click to order
IP92002 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & PIAA 60/55=110/100w Platinum bulbs-pr.) $165.95 140.00
IP92004 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & PIAA 60/55=110/100w Super Plasma bulbs-pr.) 180.95 147.00
IP92006 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & PIAA 60/55=135/125w Xtreme White bulbs-pr.) 168.44 140.00
IP92008 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & PIAA 80/80=135/115w Platinum bulbs-pr.) 175.95 149.00
IP92010 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & Catz 60/55=130/120w Galaxy White bulbs-pr.) 160.95 136.00
IP92012 Sealed Beam H4 Head Lamp Conversion kit, 7" Round (two IPF conversion lamps & Hiper 85/80=130/100w H.I. White bulbs-pr.) 155.95 126.00
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 2:14 pm:

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Jim E -- these guys seem to list xenon F stuff:

http://www3.security-one.com/ssl2000/machid/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=cat01&cart_id=

but I still don't like such a serious wiring modification -- why not just some nice (no mods) H4 halogen bulb lamps? (I'm fairly sure your 328 headlight fuses could even handle the 80/100 H4 as is -- whereas this gets iffy on the older 308s with 8A high and low beam fuses)
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 1:55 pm:

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Damn, neither of those sites have a listing for a 328. Autobulb DOES have a light for an 88-92 F355. What do they know that I don't?
MADE100 (Noelrp)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 1:25 pm:

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http://www.xenonshop.com/automotive.html
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 12:35 pm:

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Go to http://autobulbdepot.com/
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 12:31 pm:

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I'd like to change my 328 lights to Xenon....does anyone have a resource for the replacements?
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 11:43 am:

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If you have a sealed beam or an "H" series lamp, you can pick it up at the local auto supply - Pep Boys, Whitlock, Auto Zone, etc....
Mike (Dollartaker)
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 6:01 am:

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I have a 1985 308 QV Euro. Where is the best place to obtain a headlamp? Is this something that can be picked-up at a BOSCH supplier, or ????
Thanks