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What Modern Car(s) do you think will appreciate over time

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by F355 Fan 82, Oct 7, 2006.

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  1. JaguarXJ6

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    The Viper, NSX and Elise are the only cars not out of place in that list.

    The only XK that will have strong collector value is the XKR Silverstone followed by the XKR100 and Portfolio.

    The only other modern Jags worth mentioning that haven't been are the Lister Le Mans XJS, XJR-S, Series 1 XJ, XJ40 XJR (1st gen, extremely rare), and the Vanden Plas Supercharged/Super V8.
     
  2. cntchds

    cntchds Formula 3

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    I'm a Mustang guy too.

    My vote is that the Cobra R's are going to be the only one's that appreciate.

    I would assume that well kept Mach's will do well in the future, but in 50 years you never know what could happen. I think the N/A Cobra's will be worth a lot more than the S/C'd ones aka 1999 and 2001. 2001 especially since it had all of the fixes that the 1999 had to be recalled for. Terminator's sure are pretty though.

    I think all of these cars will be in their "prime" 2014 though. 50 year anniversary. After that will be a downhill road until 2039 when it's the 75 year and so on and so forth.

    Mustangs have always been good with resale. Even the Mustang II's can go for quite the chunk of change if they are in good condition. A buddy of mine just got an offer on his for 14k and his isn't even original.

    I would also have to agree with the Thunderbird Super Coupe. Sure few people know about them, but few people know about most of the cars in question here. There were so few, and they just look pristine for their time.

    Peter Hatch
     
  3. cntchds

    cntchds Formula 3

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    Also,
    What do you think about aftermarket conversions?

    Roush/Saleen for Mustangs.
    RUF for Porsches
    etc.

    Do you think the rarity of these will make them worth something? Or the costliness of maintaining is enough to almost drive them out of the market?

    Peter Hatch
     
  4. Lexdiamonnyc

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    on BMW's
    E30 M3's
    (US & Euro versions will only appreciate a little)
    US E30 M3--5300 produced
    Euro E30 M3---10645 produced
    Convertibles all Euro--786 produced

    The special versions will appreciate alot!!
    Evo1--505 produced of which 200 were "Tour de Corse" versions
    Evo2--500 produced
    Sport Evo--600 produced
    **Tour de Corse--200 produced
    **Europa Meister 88--148 produced
    **Johnny Cecotto--480 produced
    **Roberto Ravaglia--25 produced


    850CSI(basically the ///m version of the 8series)--these will definately appreciate!
    Euro(LHD): 1,125 built
    Euro(RHD): 160 built
    US (LHD): 225 built

    Z8--555 produced(most sold in the US)
    E36 M3 Lightweight--125 produced
    E36 M3R--15 Produced especially for Australia
    E36 M3 GT--350 produced for the Euro market
    E36 M3 GT Individual--50 produced all RHD for the UK

    and a bunch of Schnitzer and Alpina cars, I could go on for days.....


    non-BMW's

    Toyota Supra TT 6spd
    Buick Grand National
    GMC Typhoon and Cyclone
    early 90's Impala SS
    Corvette ZR1
     
  5. amenasce

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  6. SSNISTR

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    More "modern muscle" cars.

    The lower production ones.
    Some examples, SLP built '96-'02 Camaro SS and Firebird Firehawks.
     
  7. davequick

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    None.

    I firmly believe that there is zero value in the cars of post-obd II electronics.

    I think that everything from the carbon fiber enzo to the designed by commitee F360/F430s of today will be electronic nightmares that are not maintainable long term on the original elecronics and the plastics/resins/coatings used on todays cars will deteriorate with time.

    In 2050 the only cars from old that will still be able to roll are the ones that are simple enough to maintain (i.e. highly mechanical in design with minimal electronics) and made of real bits and pieces (i.e. wood, steel, chrome and not plastic with a tiny spraying of shiny paint added to it).

    In short, I wouldn't be surprised if when you go to a carshow in 2050 you see some of the same 1950s-1990 pre-OBD II cars that you do at the shows today.

    Obviously a couple of the post OBD-II cars wil lbe servicable and maintainable in 2050... i.e. think Mustang and other SUPER HIGH PRODUCTION cars that will have plenty of parted out beasts that might be able to cobble together the right electronics for a single car in a full restoration as a result.

    Just my opinoin. ;-)
     
  8. Moca

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    BMW 6er
    Mercedes CL 2007
    Mercedes CLS 2006
    Mercedes G Class
    Citroen C6
     
  9. jvmax

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    Take the M3 engine, put it into a low production, lighter coupe/hatch, more under 1,000 of them, = instant collectible. 2001-2002 are the years, hardly any for sale as collectors are sitting on them. I know, I had one, loved it. Broke even on it when I sold it, got a 993 C2S which is also a car for any collection with under 2,000 made.
     
  10. WJHMH

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    Mazda RX7 twin turbo - thrid genration
    Acura NSX
    Acura Integra Type R - 1997 & 1998 models Championship white will be worth more.
    Toyata Supra Twin Turbo
    Ford GT
     
  11. FredParoutaud

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    90's twin turbo supra

    slam dunk :)

    Fred
     
  12. DM1

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    How about a 89 911 turbo cab with factory slant nose. only a few (27) were made.
     
  13. rosso_fanatic

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    E36 lightweight
    E46 CSL
    Z3 M coupe w/S54 motor
     
  14. davem

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    Ok, so can someone explain why the 97 Viper GTS in Blue with white stripes is so hot.
    That said i do think it looks great...Had a blast driving Vipers at Skip Barber too!
     
  15. SefacHotRodder

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    Lots of posts in this thread i disagree with but don't have the time to ask why some cars are in here.

    I'd like to disagree with one car though. The Mustang Cobra R. Sorry, but i only see these being sought after by mustang guys. I used to love them until i saw 5 in a line at Lime Rock. Sure they are rare but they do nothing for me and i see their prices staying pretty steady. I'd be happy to be proven wrong but thats how i see it


    My short list (i'll think of more later)

    - GMC Syclones/Typhoon etc
    - Buick Grand National et al (Friend has one. Awesome car)
    - BMW E30 M3 (Varients, stock cars are too common compared to others mentioned)
    - BMW Z1
    - Lancia Stratos
    - US Spec Alpina BMW's (Z8 and 7er)

    Also, to everyone saying the Enzo, FXX, Mighty Mac etc....the fact that these will aprreciate is a given because of what they are. I thought the point of this thread was to list cars that aren't priced out of the stratosphere but will start to soon
     
  16. cntchds

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    Sorry to bring up an OLD thread but...

    Well of course they will be only sought after by "mustang guys". That's who they would sell to.

    Just like how only "gm guys" would buy the Camaro's Corvette's etc for probably what some will consider more than they are worth.

    The R was the ultimate Mustang. Just like the GT350R's back in the day. I think they will be worth a lot more in '50 than the new "GT500"s.

    Peter Hatch
     
  17. SefacHotRodder

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    This i believe
     
  18. writerguy

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    Again the cars that will have value are the ones the teens of today covet. This may shock you but the Supra is one, as are unmolested examples or properly modified ricer's.

    To some the GTO with the big engine and hood scoops will be a draw but most of the hotrodding kids have not been into corvettes for 2 generations now. Mustangs will continue to be a draw as will the new camaro if it is a real hot shoe.

    Oddly we saw an example of this at a Lamborghini event when one kid, amongst all that exotic italian metal and carbonfiber went over to Will's Type R Acura Integra and damn if he didn't start taking pictures saying OH man this is so cool... You don't see them on the street anymore.
     
  19. Craigy

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    Already these damned things are selling for their original MSRP. I don't see them falling from that, ever, as the supply of cars is only getting smaller (unfortunately). I'm 20 years old and I've been dreaming of a supra probably since I was 13. Since then, I've seen the price of clean, low-mile cars just keep going up and up and up. I'm afraid even in ten years the price may be excessive.

    Some cars I think they should just re-introduce. :)
     
  20. a8guy

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    the supra- sold mine right after fast and the furious came out for more than I bought it for the 2 yrs prior

    I agree with the mcoupe- I don;t find them attractive but they are a super rare sight

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    Not modern but i see the toyota 2000gt appreciating quite a bit- much like the countach has of late

    I don't see Carrera GT's dropping much more than they have
     
  21. BlueBiturbo

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    BMW Z1
    BMW E30 M3 Sport Evolution
    BMW 850CSi

    PORSCHE 928 GTS

    Lamborghini Countach 5000QV DD
    Lamborghini Diablo SE 30 in Anniversary Purple
    Lamborghini LM 002 America ;)

    IIRC The 1975-1977 Lamborghini LP 400 (narrow body) was $55k back in 1995, now it is >$350K. Niiiice.
     
  22. 2NA

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    I personally don't like 'em but my 27 year old son thinks the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is the "dream car".

    The cars that are big money now at BJ are the ones that young guys wanted before they had disposable income.
     
  23. RoWis

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    E46 M3
    BMW 850
    Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 VT and SE
    Ferrari 355
     
  24. SefacHotRodder

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    I dissagree. They are far too common and many people "baby" their cars because they are hoping they won't depreciate. Unlike teh E30 M3 where it is becoming increasingly hard to find a mint condition one. Think of how many E30 M3's (and E36 M3's to an extent) you see on the road and compare that to the number of E46 M3's you see


    I would say that the 2nd gen. M5 (1992ish) is a better bet
     

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