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  1. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    So my drivers side window decided it didn't wanna go up just down. I popped off the switch cleaned it, drivers window works.
    But now my passenger window won't go up or down!! And it's all the way down.
    The switch lights up and it has power. I've tested all 3 switches on the drivers window and they work so it's not the switches.
    What the hell. It worked before I touched anything!!!!
    Anyone else I'd this issue.
     
  2. WATSON

    WATSON Two Time F1 World Champ
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    There is a switch box under the dash near the OBDII connector. Take a look...maybe a wiggle ;)
     
  3. 2NA

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  4. tbakowsky

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    Yup..they all do it.
     
  5. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    Thanks!!!! That's the problem. Took apart the passenger door for nothing!!!!
    Anyone have the pin out. I have 3 wires that broke free!!
     
  6. zc911

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    #6 zc911, Aug 7, 2015
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    Oh uh how do I fix it lol
    Can I push the pins out? They all really need redone. Now 4 have popped off and really they all could just pop free
    Can I buy new pins if the old ones are removable ?
     
  7. plugzit

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    Yes, they are removable. Your local electronics store may have the tool. $25 for that little pos. I think they are AMP connectors. Buy new connectors too.
     
  8. m.stojanovic

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    #8 m.stojanovic, Aug 7, 2015
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    You can replace the broken terminals ("AMP Connector terminal"). They are available on Ebay but you need to buy them according to the wire size (AWG). You will also need a simple tool (search Ebay, it is like a small tube) to extract the old terminals.

    There are other solutions like removing all connector terminals and connecting the wires directly to each other routed through the holes in the connector.
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  9. 2NA

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  10. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    Guys, Thank you!!
    Tim that is what I am going to do. Thanks so much for the info. You guys make it easy to fix these cars lol
     
  11. zc911

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    Doing this right now and man it sucks being colour blind. May have to get my wife to be my eyes and finish up later :(
     
  12. zc911

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    So what wires from the car harness connect to what wires from the door harness. I thought they would be the same colours but they are not
     
  13. 2NA

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    Most of them should be an exact match. A couple are a little different but process of elimination will get it done.

    Do the easy ones first.
     
  14. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    Perfect thanks! i guess if i get it wrong it won't hurt anything, worse case pop a fuse
    Really appreciate the help!
     
  15. Miltonian

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    Hey, that's MY hand holding the plug in the picture above, I'd know that thumb anywhere. What fun I had in those days....
     
  16. zc911

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    This was a mistake There is no way trial and error is going to get this to work :(. Does anyone have the matching colours on the car harness side? There are just too many that don't match
    This was pretty stupid of me to do
     
  17. 2NA

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    Unless something has been rewired before, most of them should be obvious.

    Post pictures if you need to. It pays to be organized.
     
  18. zc911

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    #18 zc911, Aug 8, 2015
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    EDIT - F ME someone has been here before!!!!! 7 wires at least where previously repaired and they used different colour wire ******** it. Tomorrow i will redo each wire one by one now that i know there are so many wrong!
    I had to get my wife to read off the colours, and i showed her your picture and she's like "those don't exist here"
    The door side is totally wrong, but in front of the non factory splice i can see the proper colours :D

    Car side

    Black
    White - 18
    White -14
    White with red stripe
    Blue with red stripe
    Brown with white stripe
    Red with black stripe
    Purple with white stripe
    Yellow with red stripe
    Yellow with black stripe
    Yellow
    Orange
    Purple with black stripe
    Blue
    Blue with Black
    Red
    Brown with Red stripe
    Green

    Door side

    White with red stripe
    Blue with red stripe
    Black
    White
    White
    Blue
    Blue with black
    Red
    Green
    Red
    Black with white stripe
    Orange with red stripe
    Orange with Red Stripe
    Orange
    Orange with Red Stripe
    Red
    Red with Black stripe
    Blue
     
  19. 2NA

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    I told you it was a common problem.

    I feel your pain.

    Do a good job now and you might outlive the repair.
     
  20. AceMaster

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    Miltonian and Brent Lacht also have nice writeups on this topic.
     
  21. zc911

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    ok things are not going well. All colours matched up.

    Here is what works

    - drivers window (switch lights up)
    - drivers mirror
    -passenger mirror

    Here is what does not work
    - passenger side window (switch does not light up on drivers door or passenger door)
    - radio
    -power door locks
    - the seat belt buzzer
    - interior lights
    - door lights (on the outer edges of the doors)

    I checked every fuse in the fuse panel under the hood, left side, with my eyes and even with a multimeter (continuity test, the beep)

    Now what :(
     
  22. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    Ok small victory. There was a 20a fuse blown in the passenger side foot well fuse box. Now my passenger side window works

    Still no door lights power locks, radio or seat belt buzzer
    Any other hidden fuses?
     
  23. zc911

    zc911 Formula Junior

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    Woo 2 15s where also blown. Everything works now:)
    Clean up my wiring tommorow and job done
     
  24. 2NA

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    Good to hear!
     
  25. zc911

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    #25 zc911, Aug 11, 2015
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    Thanks! It was stressful for a bit there lol

    When I extended the wires, I used black wire and labelled them with the correct colour. So in the future if I or someone else digs in it will be much easier!
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