What tool roll is this?

It's mainly a late 308QV / early 328 tool roll that has been "recompleted", kinda hotch-potch if you like.
Let's do our home work step by step, shall we?

a. It has the translucent brown handle screwdrivers without the white "Ferrari" script, which would set it in the 1982 - 1986 bracket

b. It seems to have "Kravm" wrenches to me, also correct for QVs and for all 328s, but my eyes are notoriously bad, so please do check that these are "Kravm", that these are from the same serie (identically marked, usually "Ferrari" on one side of the handle, and "Chrom Vanadium Kravm" on the other, with identically shaped recesses for the scripts) and do check also that the 14mm wrench is indeed a "combination wrench" (= open mouthed on one side, a 14mm eyelet to go onto the spark plug tool on the other...but onto the right spark plug tool, not the one provided here! about which more follows...)

c. It has pliers with the large, strong, plastic sheath on the handles with the finger guard before the head, a model of pliers that appeared only with the very late QVs and all 328s, so starting 1985. Can't see if the handles are marked "Ferrari" and "Kravm" in white, but it does not seem so, which is not common. The recess in the beak for the cutting blades is round, not the usual rectangular shape.

d. the emergency window crank is probably an afterthought addition: the correct one for a late QV would be the "T" type, not the one here, which is correct for earlier 308s, even carbed cars. Note that even if a small number of the very early production 328s did indeed have the socket for the emergency window handle in the doors, they did not get the handle in the tool roll: so a emergency window handle should not be in a 328 tool roll.

e. the spark plug tool is not the right one: neither 308s nor 328s had this "Tommy Bar" spark plug tool, but a smaller articulated one, with a hex axle onto which goes the 14mm combination wrench eyelet.
Now, that "tommy bar" spark plug tool might extract a spark plug indeed, but it is not the correct type.
Please be reminded that the correct spark plug tool comes in two variants that are very difficult to distinguish visually:
- the one for 308, which engine has 14mm plugs and therefore the crown of the spark plug tool is 21mm inside;
- the one for 328s, which engine has 12mm plugs and therefore the crown of that spark plug tool is 18mm inside.
Neither are easy to find nowadays, so read here "expensive"

To sum it up: all tools are OEM, but from different period that are mixed together.
The tool roll has "some value", but as all tools are not consistent between them period wise, it is worth less than a typical one.

All is not lost:
1. sell the "Tommy Bar" spark plug tool; find the correct one for a 308, and trade the emergency window crank for a "T" handle one: you have a correct very late QV tool roll.
2. sell the "Tommy Bar" spark plug tool, sell the emergency window crank, find a correct spark plug tool for a 328: you have a correct, early 328 tool roll.

Rgds

 

Timely thread.

Apologies for the hijacking your thread yelcab.Have always wondered if my tool kit was indeed correct.
Nerofer, my wrenches are labeled “chrom-vanadium” on one slide and “ polytools italy” on the other, all identical to each other.( 14mm is open end/ box end.)Pliers have no marking and very different from the set yelcab posted above. Car is 85 Euro QV Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

What you have is not a '89 328 tool roll, which are typical and all identical: they all have screwdrivers with the white "Ferrari" script, the 14/14 combination wrench, and the spark plug tool as illustrated in Kim's (= "308 milano") tool roll above.
Your set of wrenches is of the right brand and model, except that you have a 14/15 instead of the 14/14 combination wrench; the 14/15 was only to be found in the "Testarossa" tool roll.
I'm 99% sure this is a set of tools that has been assembled from different lots. The "T bar" spark plug tool is not correct for a 308/328, except perhaps some very early carbed cars. You need the same one as in Kim's picture, but with the smaller crown for 12mm plugs.
Will post a picture of the standard/ typical 328 tool roll on monday at the latest. I'm travelling right now and don't have access to my image library. Will try to do it if possible before.
Rgds

 

Seems correct to me, Kim.
The pliers are indeed the right ones; some '85 QVs have pliers with blue plastic handles, others red/orange as yours.
"POLYTOOLS" wrenches are usually to be found in "2 valve injected" cars, or early production QVs, but not "out of sequence" for a late QV either... usually, Kravm or Utema wrenches are more frequent on 84/85s.
Your tool roll doesn't have an emergency window crank, but the late QVs tool rolls didn't always have one anymore. If you would like to add one, it should be the later "T" version.
Rgds

 

The two tool rolls of my '89 GTS and '89 GTB. These are the standard typical 1989 tool roll for a 328. The one of the GTS has the rarer "dull chrom finish" Kravm wrenches. Hope it helps.
Rgds
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Nerofer Good Morning! And many thanks for your input as always!

 

Looks like my 1987 Mondale kit
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Looks like you have a combination of tools. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Here is the spare parts catalogue picture and the actual picture of an early 308 tool roll. Notice the spark plug tool is the same as your’s. The wrench is certainly from a later 308/328 though.

 

Whew...I was afraid I was going to be at odds!

Thanks for the revision....that is an early window crank, and all three of my cars ending with 22641 did in fact have a T bar plug wrench just as shown here, although time usually froze the ball in the center position, not the end as this one is photographed.

And I have probably had all three types of pliers, orange, blue and the modern one easily spotted by the grips.
i think I had some pliers no grip covers at all, as shown in 4right drawing of the rool.

Note his picture has an empty slot, window crank there, OR the carb tool, which was usually loose in practice, in my case.

 

Since the subject has been brought up (again), what do I have?
This came with my Sept '78 built car, when i got it in 1984.
I would assume everything is original.
Doug
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Were all jacks painted yellow? The one that came with my ‘75 GT4 is black, as is the detachable handle, but looks to be identical to the pics in this thread.


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AZ Doug...that's the OEM rolls for 1978 with the exception your plug wrench travel bar has gone AWOL altogether!!!!

And the carb tool which Pierce has IIRC.

 

Black is an alternate color, as at some point in the later 308/328 they all were black

 

Alan,

The tipping point between yellow and black jacks seems to be "at about the change in production from two valve injected cars to QVs";
Said otherwise, and generally speaking: carbed cars + two-valve injected = yellow jack; QVs and 328s = black jack.
Or: two valve engine = yellow jack; four valve engine: black jack.
Of course, as we all know, the change didn't occur in one single day, so some fluctuations are possible around the date of change, i.e: late two valve injected cars with black jack, early QVs with yellow.

Rgds

 

I think taht plug wre

I think the plug wrench bar is right next to the plug wrench, unless you see something else missing I never knew about.

Carb tool, it that the thing that looks like a miniature cross bar wheel lug wrench?

Asa side note, I made a special carb adjusting tool out of some 1/8" diamter TIG welding rod about 12" long, with one end hammered flat, and the other bent in a T shape, to get to the front two carbs for equalization.
Doug

 

You can see the carb tool in post #10.