Innocent enough question. Most non-WIS don't have a clue as to whether manual-wind, automatic or quartz is the better or more preferable movement. My experience is that nine times out of ten, when I describe my watch collection to friends or family members and proudly show off the gorgeous manual wind movements, people will ask me "what's the matter, they don't make that watch with an automatic movement?" or "why would you spend so much on a mechanical version that will keep worse time than a quartz version of the same watch?" I usually just shrug as it's hard to make a case. Randy
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I was assuming that because the watch is manual wind, it has a less-complicated movement - the more complications, the added complexity, the higher the cost. Also, I'm to understand that manuals, if left to run-down, become inaccurate. Thus, I see more automatic-movement Chronos and Certified Chronos than I do manuals offered. I'm also assuming that the more-accurate a watch, the higher the complexity to provide that accuracy, the higher the cost. Its a great watch, don't get me wrong, but it retails for TEN times what automatic, Cert'ed Chronos are going for. I was shocked at the disparity, to say the least.
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Hi James, You would be incorrect to assume that because a watch is a manual wind it has a "less complicated movement." Some of the nicest and most complicated watches made are manual wind watches. For example the Patek 5970 and Vacheron Patrimony Traditionelle Perpetual Calendar Chronograph are watches that contain manual wind movements but in addition to the time they have a chronograph function, moonphase, and they are perpetual calendars that indicate the date, date, and month and can account for leap years. In addition when you say "automatic chronos" and "certified chronos" I presume you mean they are automatic chronometers and not chronographs (watche with a stop watch function). These days the fact that a movement is certified as a chronometer is really just sales hype. Many of the finest brands do not certify their watches as chronometers...AP, Patek, JLC, Lange etc do not bother to certify their movements. I think the "certified chronometer" seal was more important on watches years ago. Today most good watches should be quite accurate. Best regards, Dino
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the other reason there are manual wind watches is to make them really thin. The rotor (or whatever the rotating weight is called) in an automatic watch and the related hardware takes up quite a bit of space. Manual wind watches can be extremely thin. No less complicated, just a different way of winding the watch.
LOVELY Lange Totally incorrect... or the watch is a POS. Please talk to any master watchmaker and they will agree with me. There is no need to keep it wound all the time due to modern lubricants. Yes, you do want to keep the watch away from magnetics and at normal temperatures as best you can (1C to 40C give or take) and wind/use it occasionally (perhaps once every few months just to keep the lube 'flowing'). As for automatics, same things apply. Watch winders only cause 'premature' wear per se and earlier servicing periods between actual human use. By all means wear the watch daily, but to keep it on a winder for weeks or months at a time (or constant not needed manual winds) is just a waste unless you are so lazy that the possible need to reset certain complications is too much of a chore.
I haven't had another watch on since the day I bought it. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223629
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not quite right. it solely depends on the movement. there are manual wind and automatic movements but this just not say that one is better than the other. most tourbillions come only in manual movements. it's defined by the movement design. why would an unwound manual become less accurate. what if the power reserve of an auto runs out...the same isn't it ? certified chronos, i guess you mean COSC controlled. that also does not mean that it's better than others.
Never bothered me .. not everyone's genuinely interested in a fine watch, nor appreciates one. Sometimes I question myself spending more than $500 on one too. But I do appreciate the fine quality and complications that goes into a fine watch. Just like AV systems, it's the last 5-10% of quality that gets you.
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AWESOME thread! I love watches!! I have a few crappy ones. The 'best' one would be the Guess watch Nicole bought me for my b'day present 2 years ago and the Swiss watch that Chris sent me 2-3 years ago! One day, I will blow $10K on 2 or 3 nice watches and be done with it. Or $10K on just one watch, Im easy. Again, what a great thread!! Everyone has wonderful watches, thanks for sharing guys!!
I picked up the Quartz because the date was much larger than the Auto and it is a watch that gets abused. The Quartz was a few hundred less than the Auto as well. I was having dinner one night in Kauai at a plantation and they had it in the jewelry store upstairs.