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What will the FIA do about Renault?

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    After Ferrari dominated F1 for years and forecasting the winner became too simple, the FIA threw in the curve ball with the no tire change rule and it hurt Ferrari enough to not get the title again in 2005.

    To me it looks like Alonso will run away with the title this year again. Silverstone was a boring race and I expect more of the same for the rest of the season.

    So: What unexpected rule change will the FIA come up with to break Renault's dominance for 2007?

    My guess is none. Not just because Renault and FIA are from the same country, but more importantly because they probably think Renault will bring itself down: Poor driver lineup and less money.

    Comments?
     
  2. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Since Alonso is leaving, they probably won't do anything. Renault will probably kill its program off itself before the FIA does anything harmful. Maybe they'll switch it to Nissan and Nismo to increase that brand internationally.
     
  3. kirill

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    How about engine development freeze so Renault can dominate for few more years ?
     
  4. tifosi12

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    I don't think an engine freeze would cement the leader's position, but it would ruin the spirit of F1.
     
  5. Perfusion

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    In recent years, if a Renault wasn't already on the front row at the start of the race, it would be by the first turn. What's that? Launch control? Don't know the proper name for it, but whatever it's called, Renault's appears to be superior to everyone else's. Those things just *rocket* off the starting grid.
     
  6. racerx3317

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    Ron already took care of that
     
  7. Prova85

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    I believe a team has to dominate a minimum of 5 years before the FIA can intervine :)

    Good question though as I was pondering the same thing last night with a friend. IMHO Fisi has proven that as good as the car is, it still needs an elite pilota. And unless Renault get Kimi or FA pulls a Button they won't match this year and last. HK still needs to cut his teeth and he's some time off before we know where he falls ultimately as an F1 driver.
     
  8. Wolfgang5150

    Wolfgang5150 F1 Rookie

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    'Ron already took care of that' -

    LOL!! Alonso has got to be hitting the bottle hard at night. He's in a dream scenario; great team, great car, relaxed atmosphere etc; going to the exact opposite. He must have had a heart attached when Newey announced he was leaving.................

    Actually next year is going to be agreat year for Ferrari, when all teams go to Bridgestone.
     
  9. tifosi12

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    Good point, I forgot HK. I'd say he might be having a similar year as Alonso had in 2004, obscure, but possibly scoring a podium.

    Also I think Renault will not only loose its top pilot, but probably one of its biggest assets in car development: Alonso was their test driver and built the car up over two years. Those are big shoes to fill.
     
  10. jknight

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    But . . . who's to say that there might not be a situation with Alonso and Renault just as occured with Button and he stays with Renault in order to assert his dominance for a third year in a row in an effort to upseat Michael's records? With the current pattern of McLaren, Alonso's hopes for another championship are diminished - which is a good thing for Ferrari.

    In F1 ANYTHING is possible.

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  11. Remy Zero

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    negative. FIA won't really bother that much. if u looked back in 2002, 2004, the Ferrari was damn fast. but, comparing to now, the Renault is not THAT fast yet. Ferrari is still hanging at the tail at the moment. i'm quite sure schumi could have made life a bit difficult for FA is kimi has not held him up, and i think MS has actually more fuel than FA. but anyways, i don't see the FIA interfering at the moment. right now, FIA should do something bout the damn points system and the damn 2 engine rule. i mean, i can't imagine if MS won every race starting from canada till the end, and FA finishing 2nd all the way and winning the title. it's a no brainer at all.
     
  12. ricksb

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    If they want to hurt Renault, they'll restrict the aero packages on the cars (like further mandatory chassis regulations) Renault's been the best balanced car on the grid, even during Ferrari's dominant years. Once they added horsepower, you had to figure it would get to this point.

    I get your point, though...Mosley obviously feels that the advantages of the manufacturer teams upsets the balance in F1. His intentions are to make the series more about the driver than the car, but it's just not working.
     
  13. Remy Zero

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    all i know is, F1 is in danger of losing it's fans....especially 'new' fans. the spanish and british GP was a classic example. such a boring boring race. it should be more close than that. is the new V8s a solution? i really doubt. what has the V8s have actually proven? imo, just a waste of money and time.
     
  14. jssans

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    I totally agree. If Renault is so dominate why isn't Fisi at the top with Alonso. No doubt in my mind Renault has made a near perfect car under current regulations. But... what will we say when Alonso wins in a Mercedes. I can't remember the last time Alonso has broken his car. Maybe thats his trick. I think Kimi can break any car he drives & Alonso will prove that next year.
     
  15. Remy Zero

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    hehe...canada last year! and thats the next race. but, i've gotta give huge credit to FA. he takes car of the car, and the car takes care of him. dunno bout kimi, is it the car or him? some just say he's a car destroyer....let's see if that happens next year...
     
  16. ItaliaF1

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    You never know what they are going to do next. Hell, they might even push everyone down to V6s!
     
  17. SPEEDCORE

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    Who cares about new fans!!! Look after the current ones then the new will come!!!

    Spain has ALWAYS been boring, if it wasnt for Alonso there would be no reason it should remain...

    FIA doesnt need to do anything to Reno, what we need to do is to get rid of the idiots that run FIA now.
     
  18. Remy Zero

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    hehe! true! :D i can't imagine if the veyron or the FXX can do better laptimes...
     
  19. wmoon89

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    Well they don't really need to, Alonso is leaving next year and going to McLaren. I don't think he'll even be able to finish a race next year because of car trouble.
     
  20. tifosi12

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    I'm all for that. Not because of Renault (I agree with those who say Ron took care of that already), but because it would make the sport more interesting again. Less aeros results in more driver input and more chances for overtaking.
     
  21. kirill

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    Mosley want F1 to be environmentally friendly - pedal cars only !
     
  22. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    The FIA needs to put an end to the F1 transmissions and put manuals back in. We'll see who can put up with Monaco if they can do 3,000+ shifts in 90 minutes :p It might eventually get to where an F1 driver doesn't know how to drive stick. That would be a sad day for me :(
     
  23. tifosi12

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    I'd like to see stick shifts again, but it probably won't happen as it would give the drivers a chance to overrev the engine and that goes against cost savings.

    I doubt any racing driver doesn't know to drive stick. After all they come from lower formulae where paddle shifters are not en vogue.
     
  24. RP

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    Eliminate this two race engine rule, reduce aero packages, slow the cars by 5%. When you watch Schmacher make adjustments to compensate for each different corner, you wonder if there is too much technology and not enough seat of the pants driving.
     
  25. bigndude

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    I personally think what MS does is great. It shows just how good of a driver he is to know how to adjust everything for each particular part of the course and each condition. Sure his engineers tell him some things but others he just knows. If only more drivers had to do it, it would be way more entertaining to see drivers make more of their own engineering decisions during a race.
     

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