What would you pay for a 4 liter 308?

I would pay 20k for a "turnkey 4v" so to speak, if I gave them my car and got it back with everything done.

That is providing I like the clutch feel of the new car. I am not one to spend 20k only to realize I hate driving it..faster and more reliable or not. And being stuck in a city, stop and go is always just around the corner.

 

Drop in and turn the key and drive away..yes 20-25k. 20k for just the engine..plus fuel management and other compoents that will be needed? No way..355's are plentiful.

 

It depends on the reviews of the finished product, and it depends on whether they update the cam belt system. As I mentioned on the other thread, an updated system that could provide modern-car service intervals would be well worth the purchase price. It also depends on whether it's a turn-key conversion, as spending ANOTHER 5-20K to get the motor installed and tuned correctly would be ludicrous.

 

You should have put some lower priced options to click off in the poll, because I wouldn't pay anywhere near $20K. Add that on top of a $20K car and you have $40K, which will just about buy you a 348. Not that I don't absolutely love 308s, but if I wanted a high performance car, that just isn't the car to start with. For $5K I might consider the added punch, but beyond that I think you're better off just getting a newer Ferrari!

Birdman

 

Ask and you shall recieve!

 

You know it just ocurred to me that updating the belt doesn't really buy you anything. You still need to pull the cam to shim the valves every 30k...might as well change the belt while you're there...for the money I wouldn't put the old belt back on if it was good for 100k or not....you're not supposed to re-tension a timing belt....and you're only talking about a couple hundred dollars in parts...not much compared to the 6-12 hours it takes me to rip the thing apart, do the vavles, and put it back together.


On another note, I voted 15-20k...but then realized that it isn't 4 liters I want, it's 400hp. So I think that having 400hp in a 308 is well worth 15-20k, having it I can tell you it makes the car so much more fun to drive and from a naturally aspirated engine it would be even better. So what I think it's worth comes down to what it delivers I guess.....

 

What good is 400hp without the gearing to utilize the power? If they offered a 6 speed trans, then I'd consider it. Heck, I'd consider a 6 speed trans before 400hp. Right now I can do 35 mph in 5th gear going up a steep hill and still accelerating slowly. I did it going up to the pocono's.

 

...I guess "still accelerating slowly" changes too "still accelerating plenty hard". I often go directly from 1st to 5th for just this reason.....or when I'm really lazy around town I just leave it in 3rd and don't bother shifting at all....with 400 ft-lbs of torque, you really only go through to motions of shifting, it isn't actually necessary....although it still doesn't start out well in 5th....I guess I need a little more boost

 

No you don't. In fact, no one pulls the cam to shim it. It's not necessary and T-rutlands, and I think F_UK have the tools required to remove/intall shims with the cams in.

 

I'd amagine that with 400hp 1st and 2nd gear are pretty much a waste of revs.

 

You're quite right....brain fade, sorry.

 

At 370hp 1st required a bit or care, but second was too high for a good launch. At 500 1st is only good for rolling around parking lots, second with care for a good launch, it bogs if I try to launch in 3rd.

 

Well--lets see--I think I currently have about 18k in my 4.1 litre 308 and will be standing at about 28k in it when it is done---motor/tranny ONLY.

Of course mine has 12 cyls and 425hp too.............
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