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What's it worth -- non-running 05 308 QV

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  1. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    Seems like a high price for a non-proven engine
    that has sat for 5 years.

    I always think that if the part is $900 -- buy it put it in
    and prove its a runner and the value will genuine.

    1985 308 quatralvalve Ferrari
     
  2. Crallscars

    Crallscars F1 Rookie

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    if you buy it and part it out, give me a call
     
  3. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    After 5 years of not running, it (having Bosch CIS injection) will need more than just the bodywork fixed (even if all else was perfectly OK when the disuse began).

    PS One would think that someone selling a QV would get the spelling right in either English or Italiano...
     
  4. MASR04

    MASR04 Formula 3

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    This is hilarious! Small Dent? Ferm on the price? Good Shape??

    Whatever this guy is drinking, popping, or smoking is worth more than the car...
     
  5. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    I'd only buy it to do a light resto and drive it.

    I don't have the time or inclination to part it out.
    I have several piles of Porsche parts to prove that.

    M
     
  6. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    Forget the firm price -- what is it worth....

    Maybe if I buy him enough of whatever he's indulging in -- he might loosen the wallet to reality --

    I'm new to F-cars -- so I have no idea on $$ -- P-cars -- all over it,
    just don't know what the market is for something like this.

    I was thinking 1/2. But without ammo -- there's no way I waste my time even driving
    there with my trailer and a wad of cash.

    Mike
     
  7. Crallscars

    Crallscars F1 Rookie

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    From a distance, except for the dent over the parking light, it appears to be a nice car.
    Then you can ask all the questions, rust, interior, miles, any records, tools, spare, manuals, spare parts.

    Just because it doesn't start doesn't mean it couldn't be a great barn find.
     
  8. rob

    rob F1 Rookie

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    I'd say its worth low teens but it is hard to put a value on a car with two pictures and not much info.
     
  9. Crallscars

    Crallscars F1 Rookie

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    I would take the current average sale price ($34,000),
    deduct the cost of the body work necessary, $3000
    deduct a set of tires, $2500
    deduct a reasonable price to overhaul what else doesn't work.....engine $7000
    deduct replacement cost of tools, manuals, spare, anything else missing
    you now have a reasonable offer.
     
  10. bobzdar

    bobzdar F1 Veteran

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    Looks like he's in range at 22k depending on what it needs to get running. Worth a call imo.
     
  11. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    Good discussions....
    This is more or less what I was looking for --

    I think you also have to factor in the risk involved.

    so you have $34 - $12.5 - risk.

    At $34K you know where you are at, average good running car
    with little chance for hidden issues because everything is working
    and you can observe all that is going on.

    When you have a non-runner -- anything can be hidden -- tranny issues,
    synchros, AC, valve guides, who knows.

    BTW, what is your source for the $34K?

    thanks,

    Mike
     
  12. bobzdar

    bobzdar F1 Veteran

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    Well, tires are less than half that for good 16", around $800 depending on which brand you go for. Find out what part he says it needs and see if you can scrounge a used one for cheap or borrow one and put it on and try to start it up and see what works/doesn't work. As I said, worth a call at least.
     
  13. Crallscars

    Crallscars F1 Rookie

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    By tires, I was referring to possible basic maintenance,
    Tires, hoses/antifreeze, oil/filter, used car supprise
     
  14. Robz328

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    The 'small' front dent is the size of a cupholder...about $2 to $3K to repair.

    $22K is a bit high for a non-running 308 with no indication of work/mileage...way too much risk, even for a project. I would propose about $18K, or get much, much more information (seller seems motivated).
     
  15. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

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    I happen to have wur and complete CIS for this car available at a ferm price but negoshable.
     
  16. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

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    If I ned one I'll wurk a deel wit u :)

    M
     
  17. Ferraripilot

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    22k is a big maybe, if the engine checks ok. Leakdown each and every one of those cylinders. Also, that front clip repair is going to be very expensive. The metalwork can be fixed but because there are no seams on the front clip then the entire front clip must be painted and hopefully blended to the old paint on the front hood. That's a $6-10k job.
     
  18. Crowndog

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    Lol got a front spoiler available too US rennspeed 50% off
     
  19. Futureman

    Futureman Formula 3

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    I'm just trying to figure out what a Ferrari is doing in the Killeen/Temple area. Talk about two sh*t towns. Killeen is a trashy Army town. Temple isn't much better. Redneck got in over his head?
     
  20. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
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    Keep in mind that there ARE a few of us who live in trashy Army towns that happen to have Ferraris!! ;)




    PDG
     
  21. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

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    Talked to owner -- not a lot of details....

    I'm #2 on list -- if it's still available come the weekend
    I'll grab my trailer and take a look.

    I'm in a unique situation as I have a buddy who has an independent
    shop. He and I have been rebuilding and racing porsches for several years
    now.

    Just looking into something different.

    Have a little play money and enough aptitude between us to be dangerous.

    Give me time to finish up my 928 project & 951 track car before tackling this.

    M
     
  22. Futureman

    Futureman Formula 3

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    Hey, I'm not knockin' it. I went to flight school in Killeen (highest per capita murder rate in Texas back then) and Temple was a step up from our town when we played ball against them in Highschool. I lived in the second worst town in Texas...Waco. (The first worst is College Station). In all my years roaming central Texas, I only saw 1 Ferrari (a 308 back in the 80's). You had to go to Dallas or Austin to see hot cars.
     
  23. Futureman

    Futureman Formula 3

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    Oh, and there are "nice" Army towns. I used to live in one of those too...Huntsville, Alabama. But Killeen ain't one o' dem. Niether is Fayetnam, North Carolina.
     
  24. klatu

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    Patrick, you are golden my son.

    Rob
     
  25. lonestarrpm

    lonestarrpm Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    My guess was that is was owned by someone at Ft Hood who got deployed or TDY'd and just prior it wouldn't start and sat all those years.

    Not the case -- but I would have believed the story :)

    Guess we'll see by weeks end if I'll be back in the Italian saddle....

    In my youth (and stupidity) I cut my teeth on a pair of Fiats and a BiTurbo (yeah I know......)

    Mike
     

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