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What's the deal with the Clermont Street underpass?

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic Region - USA (PA, DE, MD, DC, VA)' started by DGS, Dec 31, 2004.

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  1. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    In Alexandria, there are signs on Franconia directing you down Clermont street "to Eisenhower Av". After following the trail of bread crumbs down increasingly narrow and twisty roads, you find the only underpass below I95 between MD and the Springfield interchange -- and it's blocked off.

    No explaination.

    That's the only path past I95 that doesn't get mired up with the interchanges -- most of which are already overly mired with additional traffic mixes.

    It almost seems like Alexandria has gone out of its way to create massive gridlock zones at all the I95 interchanges, causing any traffic jam on I95 (such as the Wilson bridge every day) to translate to immobility throughout Alexandria.

    Anyone heard why that one and only underpass was closed?

    Structural problems? Complaints from the Clermont street condos? Isolating all traffic off Eisenhower Av? ;)

    I think the Alexandria city planners need a trip to NYC to see how traffic flow is supposed to work.

    And, while they're away, we can change the locks on their office doors. ;)


    I'm also thinking of putting my Fairfax Co street map on e/bay: it must be rare, judging from traffic. This must be "Never Never Land" -- the roads are full of "Lost Boys". ;)
     
  2. wfo900

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    its a friggin bike route now...utterly stupid. They take all the morons in the state... excuse me Commonwealth... and put them in charge of traffic and roads.
     
  3. coolestkidever

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    i was just there visiting my cousins and it was hell we had to turn around maybe 7 times before we could auctually get on I95
     
  4. DGS

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    Correction: There is 495/I95 access from Clermont street -- from the Eisenhower side. So even if the road did go through, it would be combined with the I95 gridlock backflow. On that side, the wall is accompanied by a maze of switchback stairs going apparently nowhere at all.

    Our tax dollars at work and play.

    What really bothers me is that they aren't content with a single jammed intersection. Telegraph road interchange combines I95 access with the Duke street ramps, a ramp to (I can't figure out from the map where it goes), and two traffic lights a block apart -- something you find way too often in Alexandria. Last week, it took me two hours to get from Duke St. to Franconia.

    And these traffic lights are all way, way longer than they should be. Heck, in my day that was a high school math problem: For more traffic, you need a shorter cycle on the light to keep traffic flowing. These lights are red long enough to collect half the county. Don't they know even that much?

    Maybe the city planners commute on bikes. They certainly seem to have laid out these roads to mess up traffic.
     
  5. RAP

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    thats our tax dollars at work, i deliver propane to cusomers all over from Front Royal to Indian Head Md. its a big mess ,thankfully i made plans with the majority of the customers to deliver at night ,tho not as much traffic but stilla pain in the butt,i figure if they finnaly get it the devil will be throwing snowballs.
     
  6. DGS

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    Geez! Don't say "snow". I've seen what traffic gets like when it rains. If it snows, here, the traffic will be a scene from "Inferno". ;)
     
  7. Robin

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    I used to live in Kingstowne at the very south end of Van Dorn.. worked on Eisenhower Ave, right next to the big cardboard box look-alike building. It was about 2 miles door to door but regularly took me over 30 minutes to get to or from work. Solution: move to FL, fly up Monday, fly home Friday. Walk to work from apartment 2 blocks from the office :) I haven't driven up there for a while and don't plan to anytime soon.

    On a side note, the intersection of Van Dorn and the Kingstowne Parkway had a serious accident just about every day. Not sure why though.. it was clearly marked and had good visibility, but literally 3 or 4 times a week I'd see people heading south on Van Dorn just fly right through that red light. I realize that drivers are bad all over, but the combination of moronic drivers + moronic road design = disaster every day. Escape while you can :)

    -R
     

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