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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by ross, Nov 18, 2018.
which car is presently undervalued in your opinion?
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16M’s and Challenge Stradales.
The last and best of each model.
STILL waiting for my 308 to become the next Dino
Not holding my breath LOL
SCUD of course, its just about finished with its in between years many people say as a drive its unbeatable
Crystal ball on trickle charger. But assuming stable macroeconomic conditions (which is a bold and perhaps unlikely assumption) in the next 5 years, I can see modern yet analog-driving experience models continue to trend up percentage wise. Recent discussions on “analog” cars and “restomods” (to modernize older cars) seem to support this modern-yet-analog movement. From these models, the beauty/provenance/relative-rarity combination rules.
I would pick from 90s-00s cars as generational demographics favor these eras. My bias is on street-titled 355 Challenge cars - modern, stick, relatively rare, timeless style, awesome engine sound, period-raced yet can be street-driven, and a great driving experience. Keeping mine, bad economy or not.
Also, I wonder if F50 values have room to increase. Perhaps.
Having said this, I recently drove F1 models; I thought I’d never say this, but there is a level of skill and involvement required to drive those smoothly. Depending on how one defines what “analog driving experience” is, a 360 CS or Scuderia may be a dark horse surprise. This era of Ferraris brought in a seemingly new group of enthusiasts.
For race cars: 90s F40 GTE/LM, 00s Michelotto cars (360/430 GTx) and 550 Pro Drive? Hmmm. Go for LM/other race winners.
None besides the already collector grade Enzo, LaF, F40, F50, etc. IMHO.
I don't think age and an engine out in any market condition increases the desirability.
It’s probably time for the TRs and 512s to make a move. Teenagers in the ‘80s are now in their late 40s and early ‘50s. They have the means and motives to buy the car in their old Farrah Fawcett poster.
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Dino 308 GT4's. Especially the Euro Spec. models. I always get great comments on mine when on display. Everyone comments on how they like the GT4 body style much more than the later 308's and 328's. These cars are now reasonably priced depending on condition but fully restored one's are selling way over 100K. And boy are they fun to drive, old school Ferrari driving--gated shifter, no power steering and Weber carbs.
308 Gt4 and 365/400/412 series
I still cant believe how "cheap" some Boxers are for what they are; the last hand formed, carburated and mid engined 12 cyl Ferrari.
The Supercar of its day.
But yes the 430 Scud is not depreciating. Its not appreciating either. No man's land. Its a "special car" even among Ferraris as its a race car for the street. Cant go wrong here.
IMO the 599 HGTE is another on the short list but it is still depreciating. The poor mans GTO.
Perhaps Boxers and Testarossas. Perhaps.
When I bought my 330 GT, prices were so obviously low.
Now they’re obviously high.
I dont think so. The TR and Boxer took off for a while. 200k, 300k 400k etc. Now they have dropped back down. Higher then before, but not anywhere near the height of the frenzy. You can grab a TR under 100k now. Boxers have fallen, but have settled at a higher price point. 200k seems to be the number to get into one.
The countach is the car that has maintained the best out of the 3 for price.
The next car to hit I feel will be the front engined v12's. From the 456 on up to the 612. 599, I'm not so sure about. They are a bit of an acquired taste. I like them, but they have an odd "feel" to them.
Cars from the 80s and soon 90s. Cars Gen X want and soon younger guys..
These are on my list for cars to buy and hoard:
330 GTC (as old as I would go)
458 S and of course SA
488 Pista and PS
The F12 is mega and I would be surprised if that car didn't find an audience.
Then none at all.
If they’ve dropped back down, then they’re going to drop some more.
I see no Ferrari appreciating over the next five years.
it might depend on which market we are talking about....
but, as the new product line evolves into turbos and hybrids, i suspect the older hot normally aspirated cars will appreciate again.
the f40 being the exception to that rule of course .
to me the only screaming buy that doesn't make sense is a 95 f355.
512tr is still up 100% of the 2009 lows whereas 355 is up about 15 to 20% from what i remember.
and i can see clean F40s at 2 to 2.5M in 5 years.
100%. subtleties for those who pay attention.
The high for 355's (and other models) was spring-summer of 2016. I had sold my 3rd 355 August of 16 and the values had already started to decline. They are still up from 5-6 years ago though.
I think the 355 suffers from a somewhat undeserved reputation for being expensive to maintain, especially relative to its value.
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