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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by ross, Nov 18, 2018.
Scottsdale might show some trend to kick off the decade.
I can't wait for the bubble to completely deflate or pop. So much is overvalued, so much to choose from. Esp. the 911 market. Black swan cometh..
I think T-Rosas are the Daytonas of the future. 15-20 years ago, you could buy Daytonas for a buck and quarter all day long. I remember one guy in South Florida who had three at one time on his website. I don't "invest" in cars. But, if I did, I'd buy this car in a heartbeat.
Not so sure I agree. They are cool cars, but drive like a truck around town. On the highway they are wonderful however. However traffic negates that for most. Not too many people left out there who will put up with it's nonsense. They definitely will not pay a premium for the pleasure either.
365 GT/4 BB
Sounds like you’re describing a Daytona!
A Testarossa screams Ferrari. Even people who hate cars know it is a Ferrari. I would not be surprised to see this specific car be worth $500,000 in say ten years.
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Yes, going up at the expense of the cars going down.
Nobody questions my premise? Will a T-Rossa be the next hot thing? Come on, Ross. Will a Miami Vice car ever be a valuable as your POS F-40?
If you believe that, you should buy one.
Personally, the TR disappointed me after the Boxers. Not nearly as nice looking. Boke may be right, but I am a lousy prognosticator.
Remember the premise is which Ferrari will be the next to leap up in value. Boxers are too purist. T-Rossas have this:
We would be lucky if anybody would pay 500k for an f40 in 10 years.
Modern Fcar prices will influence the older models for the better. If an "entry level" Fcar eventually starts at 500k with people actually paying that you better believe the older cars with the same name and logo will go up in value to some extent. Not to the price point of the new models unless they are super rare, but they will go up.
Too bad, there's not a Ferrari associated with this:
Sorry Texas, not sure I agree. That boxy 80's styling might work for Elon's truck, but with modern sports cars being all smooth the look, while undeniably 80's Ferrari, is 80's Ferrari. Couple that with the mediocre handling (and performance), relatively high build numbers, and maintenance costs.. not sure I follow why I'm going to pay so much for one? McLaren is REALLY popular with the millennials from what I see.
Personally I like the idea of a 512bb, but I'm not paying over $100-150k for a car that dated.
A big part of my logic, in response to Ross's question about which Ferrari will go up in value, is Testarossas have NOT gone up in value like the other Boxers. And they clearly make a statement. Ride another in one and you will get more love than a Maranello or F360.
If anyone has a F40 for sale for $500K I'll buy right now
I have a 575 and a 991S convertible.
The Porsche is better in every objective way but I much prefer driving the 575. It is subjectively a much more fun car.
Put me on the waiting list
I'm on board too. From what I'm seeing from the inside..the old cars are not being sold to the 20 somethings. They are being sold to the 50+ crowd. Younger people are buying the newer cars..2000 on up. Won't even consider a TR or 328 etc..too slow, too old, too much wasted time looking for parts etc.
Also cost per performance dollar just does not add up. Not too many people anymore will put up with an expensive sports car that can't keep up with a mini van full of kids.
but a 512tr will be worth more in 5 years than it is today.
and a 512bbi will be worth more.
and an f40 will be worth more still !
my guess is in 5 years, the 512tr will be 250-300
the bbi will be 350-400
and the f40 will be 2 mil++
The 308 / 328 seem to be currently dirt cheap in the US, compared to the prices in Europe (so much so that some are imported from the US to Europe).
And the previous car in that range was the Dino, with a price gap that's far larger than between the BB and testarossa - also I believe that compared to the BB, the testarossa was the one that really introduced the mass production, whereas for the "entry level" it's less clear (even though obviously the 308/328 were more produced than the Dino).
As for a general trend, since 2016 prices have been falling across the board, so probably 5 years from now most classic Ferrari will be at higher prices than today.
Keep me honest.
Did any Ferrari appreciate yet?