Whats the story of this LM ?

Wayne, Why do you think it is a replica?

That site actually has some of the best detail pictures I have ever seen. The only thing that looks wrong to me is the carb airbox ... never seen one with those before.

Why does the site not mention a chassis number ????

Pete

 

wasn't LM introduced in 1965 as a replacemetn for the 1964 GTO II ?

 

Not sure but I believe that the LM was atleast on the drawing boards if not a prototype BEFORE the 64 GTO.

Part of the aero improvements were done IMO to make the 64 GTO look like a LM so that Enzo could BS the FIA saying the LM was a continuation of the GTO ... which ofcourse it wasn't but a continuation of the P1 or 2 (can't remember).

Naturally the FIA did not fall for this one

Pete

EDIT: Actually made from '63:

 

I don't remember 2 LMs coming to Australia ??

David Mackay ran the Scuderia Veloce team that won the Surfers 12 hr race with Spencer Martin from memory (still quite a quick driver for a man his age) and this was the only car not to be converted to 3.3litres by a factory recall when Enzo found out how far Oz was from Italy or so the story goes....

Just read an old magazine of mine and found that 3 LMs have lived in Oz and that David Mackay's car won the Surfers 12 hr 3 times, once with Jackie Stewart.

Unfortunately the article doesn't list the chassis numbers

 

It's a well known replica with no known chassis number but using engine 4523/GT.

I don't know (much) about Autosalon Singen, but usually explanation is either:

- So they can advertise cars which are not what they are claimed to be?

or:

- So they can advertise cars they don't really have?

Well, the message is clear: stay away!

Best wishes, Kare

 

Generally speaking! As said earlier, I don't know much about Autosalon Singen. At most times these two reasons, however, explain why no chassis number is shown...

Best wishes, Kare

 

For you vintage experts - I have heard reference to 250LM and 275 LM. Isn't the engine actually a 275? Or were there versions with 250 and 275 power?

A friend of mine owned the last 1964 GTO (#5575) built and, as I recall, many years ago so I can't be sure, the serial number had "LM" in it. Was this my imagination or was there something to it? He also owned #4713 but I do not remember much about the number.
Bob Z.

 

The LM Series was to be homologated as a 250 (3 litre) and uses a 250 block, hence the designation, but actual displacement for all but the first car was 275 (3.3 litre). It was an effort by Ferrari to claim that the LM Series was a continuation of the 250 GTO line of cars, when in fact it was more akin to the P cars of the era.

This was also the reason that Ferrari had such a tiff with the FIA, as they saw that it was not really a GT car and would not homologate it as such. It led to Ferrari pulling out of Formula 1 for the year, with the F1 cars being run by NART in Blue and White colors.

 

As beautiful as they are (I think the coupe is even better looking than the spider)...the one-off fastback is even better looking, IMO....

 

Yes. I have actually seen the designations 250P LM and 275P LM used for the spiders in various places.