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  1. alecela

    alecela Formula Junior

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    Alright, I'm seriously looking into getting a set of new wheels for my 02 spider. I think the car can benefit from the wheel filling up the fender a bit. Question is how far have you guys 'flared' out compared to your stock wheel? I'm thinking abt. 20mm from stock, do you think that would be too much?

    Moreover, how much clearance space do I have from the rear inner wheelwall to the inner edge of the wheel/tire?

    Basically I'm thinking of 12"-width wheel for the rear from 10.5". With right offset I think I'm looking at extending abt. 16mm from the inner edge and abt. 22mm from the outter edge. (1.5 in = 38mm)

    As for the front, I'll probably just go 8.5" instead of stock 7.5". So 8mm for inner and 17mm to fill the fender? (25.4mm = 8.2mm + 17.2mm)
     
  2. fc2

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    Well, I don't know about all the measurements, but I do know two things:

    1) Don't let your tires stick out beyond the fender wells... I've seen this on both 360's and 430's and it make the car look like a ricer.

    2) If you're going to put 19" wheels on the front, you'll want to roll the fenders to avoid having the tire come in contact with inside edge of the fender and bend the metal down in to fender pulls.

    Frank
     
  3. C4YES

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    Are the wheel wells rolled from the factory on Stradales?
     
  4. 360blue

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    Frank,
    I think its not really necessary. I have a 360 spider with 430 19" wheels with no problems . If your suspension is stock you are good to go with 19" 430 wheels. Adil.
     
  5. Driftracer3

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    Car would look much better with a 19/19 or 19/20 setup. As far as the measurements, if you pick a quality wheel manufacturer(HRE, Novitec, Imola, DPE...) they will have it all figured out.
     
  6. fc2

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    I don't know about Stradales, but they're rolled on my '07 F430...

    Frank
     
  7. alecela

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    Agree w/ #1 absolutely. Just trying to figure out how far you guys have pushed assuming it stays WITHIN the fender.

    As for #2, care to elaborate abt. what you mean by rolling? Not exactly familiar with that terms.

    Tx.
     
  8. fc2

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    #8 fc2, Jul 30, 2008
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    Sure... I've attached a couple of pictures of a car I considered buying.

    This car is a 2001 360 coupe at standard US ride-height with 19" wheels and 245/45 Pirellis on the front.

    As you can see, the tire caught the inside of the fender and bent the metal down. One of the bends actually was severe enough that it slightly deformed the outside radius of the fender. Not sure you can see this in these photos, but trust me... you were able to see it in person.

    Fender rolling is when a body shop rolls the metal inside the fender back onto itself removing the lip that gets caught on the tire. I had it done to the car I ultimately bought and the 19" wheels and big tires never once rubbed.

    Frank
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  9. alecela

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    Frank thanks so much for the picture, I guess it's almost like 'folding' the edge of the fender? Rather than keeping 90 degree angle between the fender and the edge, you 'fold' it up so the back of the edge is against the back of the fender? I would imagine these needed to be done carefully so it doesn't crack the paint?
     
  10. AJTozzi

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    The wideset I have personally done without any problems would be the following setup:

    19" x 9" front, ET28 with 255/30/19 tires and the front fenders rolled

    19" x 12½" rear, ET51 with 355/25/19 tires

    Stock ride height (US spec).

    This is a BADASS setup and looks and performs great with no problems whatsoever.

    The front fender modification (rolling) is a pretty simple procedure if the technician 1) knows what they are doing & 2) has the correct tools.

    I use a heat gun set on low, some water and a fender rolling tool. It is pretty straight forward, takes all of 15 minutes per fender. As described above all it does is "roll" the lip of the fender into itself and elminates the ½" lip that sits there.

    FYI: Pirelli is the only manufacturer that makes the rear tire and it is VERY hard to get your hands on. Look for the tire BEFORE you commit to the wheels. Most companies that specialize in FERRARI wheels (or LAMBORGHINI, as the Murci uses the same size in the rear) stock atleast one or two sets of these as it is useless to sell a wheel w/o the tire available. Expect to pay top dollar for the tire though (I had a client once pay $1200 each).

    Anthony
     
  11. C4YES

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    Isn't a 225/35/19 or 235/35/19 a better fit than a 245/45/19?
     
  12. Driftracer3

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    The 355/25/19 was never used on any production car, and even companies that specialize in Ferrari or Lambo dont stock these, Lambo uses a (335/30/18). Ive only been able to source a few of these ever, I got mine Germany both times. Novitec stocks these tires for their wheels, but wont sell them alone. I even bought 4 extra rear tires for a customer to match his wheels, just because they wont sell the tires alone.

    If you want wheels, get an 11" rear, and use a 295/30/19 rear tire.
     
  13. AJTozzi

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    I was not referring to OE wheels. I was referring to companies that do a lot of FERRARI and LAMBO aftermarket wheel packages. Make a few phone calls in the So Cal & Miami markets -- you will find this tire.

    Anthony
     
  14. E60 M5

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    No, the CS wheel is a lower profile wheel than the standard 360 wheel. You can even lower your 360 to CS specs with the CS wheel and have no rubbing issues!! Its a great set-up, I just need to save the cash for those CS wheels!!!


    Robert
     
  15. Driftracer3

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    Ive only seen the 355 used on a handful of cars, and never even on a Murcie. Maybe its been done, but its not common at all. The most Ive seen it used on is Vipers. I know someone who looked for this tire for 5+ months before finding it. The most common rear tire used on a Murcie is a 345/25/20, people rarely use an 18 or 19 rear wheel with an aftermarket setup.
     
  16. fc2

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    #16 fc2, Jul 31, 2008
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    Actually the tires and wheels fit great. While I didn't buy that silver 360, I did buy this red 360 from the same dealer and had the wheels and tires moved from the silver car to the red car... HRE's are my favorite aftermarket wheels and with the big tires, the car looked amazing.

    The rears are 305/35 19" and the front 245/45 19". I had the front fenders rolled and they never rubbed once.

    I sold this car and bought an F430... it's just a matter of time before I upgrade the wheels on the 430 to look like these.

    Frank
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  17. PCH

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    Yes.
     
  18. alecela

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    Actually I thought 285/35/19 would be a better fit as the total diameter of tire+wheel is only abt. 5mm larger than the stock one at 275/40/18? I calculated 295/30/19 would result in abt. 17.5mm SMALLER in diameter of the tire+wheel?
     
  19. duskybird

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  20. alecela

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    Very nice! I love the CS style but really want to go 19" this time. (I can't stand my Ferrari having smaller wheel than my SUV!!! :)
     
  21. Driftracer3

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    It really depends on the look you want. You can use a 285/35 which is the same as the CS uses, you can go with a smaller diameter and lower profile 295/30, or you can even go 305/25, which looks much more agressive, but you lose quite a bit of sidewall. It all depends on preference.
     
  22. duskybird

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    I don't remember how close the ratio need to be (front/rear) but you need to maintain it as not to confuse the ASR.
     

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