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Wheels and Tires for 308

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  1. Sophia

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    Here are a couple of posts that might add a tid-bit of info. here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11452
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25666
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9346

    Good luck with your search, I've seen many sets of the rims like Spasso has on his car, new in the box, on GT4's...the quality is very good and they are a great value. I got lucky and found my stock 16" Cromodora's from a private party. I did fly cross-country to look at them before I bought them; these original magnesium wheels can corrode something awful, particularly at the hub interface.

    I paid $2k for a set of 5, 3/7's and 2/8's. Great deal but I had to refinish them, and I'll never do that again...alot of work for a nice finish. Factor in around $500.00 or more for a professional refinish. PeterB.
     
  2. GavC

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    I have just finished refurbing my 16 inch rims. I was wondering if 245/45/16 and 225/50/16 tyres would fit on a 308 gt4 or stay with 225/50 and 205/55. The car is also lowered. I currently have 225/60/14 all round it does catch at front on full lock and also if I hit a bad bump in road. Any thoughts on this guy's.
     
  3. robertgarven

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    225's will rub on a gt4 and even bend the inside of the fender if it lowered anything over 205/55 I personally would not use. BTW the QV wheels were available even on the gt4 in Europe as early as 1978, the part numbers are the same as in the 79 gt4 catalog as opn the 84QV's.
     
  4. chrismorse

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    #29 chrismorse, Feb 19, 2005
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  5. jpl

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    I don't mean to hijack the thread but I have a question reqarding some new 16" wheels I just bought.

    I got the 16" 328 pre-abs wheels from Ferrari UK and I am planning to put these on my 308. Do any of you have any idea where I can get the aluminum valve stems, or will the plain plastic ones work.

    Thanks in advance.

    JP
     
  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    The plain plastic ones should do fine.
     
  7. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    By the way, by "pre ABS" do you mean the wheels are concave because the convex ones were never really an indication that the car had ABS.
     
  8. jpl

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    Yes concave, and I always thought thats why the post ABS cars had the different wheels.
     
  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I used to think that too. Evidentially it's not true.
     
  10. brent Lachelt

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    #35 brent Lachelt, Feb 21, 2005
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    I put these on my 82 308 gtsi when I had it. Compomotive 17x8 fronts and 17x9 rears and Yokohama AVS 100 tires. Wheels from Motorsports Specialties in PA. and tires from the Tire Rack. Total cost about $2600.
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  11. f355spider

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    I certainly would not recommend driving at freeway speeds on tires exceeding 10 years old...they really lose a lot of their adhesive properties, let alone the ability to even hold air! Seen them on cars, with cracks, and delaminating...scary!

    Of course, if the car is just going to sit in a garage, then that's fine...
     
  12. geekstreet

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    brent, those are lovely looking wheels. I might look them up when I need to replace rims. Are there mounting bolts under a centre cover? (It has a centre-lock style)

    The Mondials ran the convex "ABS" rims from the first series (8, QV, 3.2) but only the later 3.2 models have ABS. I believe the convex rim is designed for a revised susp geometry, so I wouldn't just slap them on any car without checking this out.
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Those look really good!
     
  14. Sophia

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    Plastic, you've got to be kidding, you own a Ferrari, not a Dodge Neon. I would hesitate to cruise at sustained speeds with a "plastic" stem...they can let go. The Fuchs wheels on my old Porsche had a valve stem supports; they "caught" the rubber stems when they flexed at high speeds due to centrifugal force, thus preventing a sudden loss of psi if the stem were to tear under load.

    It would be a shame to have a sudden psi loss due to a valve stem failure.
    PeterB.
     
  15. Spasso

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    Most tire shops have the chrome steel stems on hand. They are not that much more and look much better.
     
  16. BigTex

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    The OEMs are not steel........they are aluminum, I believe.......if you are spending that much money I'd try to track some of those down...

    The intent was not to throw balancing off, IIRC.......

    All of mine have them......
     
  17. BigTex

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    Better check on that Spasso...I've seen beauty trims slipped over a rubber assembly and chrome capped.....still a rubber pop in....

    Not the same as the OEM stem at all.......

    Somebody drop over with a camera, I have an unmounted set stacked up.

    The metal ones have a 'retaining seat' inside the wheel, as well as the nut on the outside..no way that thing is leaving!
     
  18. Spasso

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    I like the steel better. Stronger and less likely to fail if they take a hit. The difference in weight is negligable when it comes to balancing. Weight will be applied to the wheel regardless of which stem you use.
     
  19. BigTex

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    I agree the weight is unimportant.......it is important to use one that allows for the thickness of the rim......I guess that's why the threaded ones came in them.......
     
  20. Spasso

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    Threaded? What threads?:p
     
  21. BigTex

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    That's what I'm trying to tell you...OEM stems BOLT INTO the wheel...solid metal.........mechanical fastening.....not some pop in rubber deal......

    I have 14" Chromos and 14" Campis........
     
  22. Spasso

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    #47 Spasso, Feb 22, 2005
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    I have 14" also, in a stack in the basement. When you said threaded I thought you meant that the wheel itself was threaded.
    All of my stems are inserted into the wheel and held there with a nut on the opposite side.
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  23. BigTex

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    That's it...thanks...one pic = thousand words...

    One point off, on that cap..........LOL! ;)
     
  24. Spasso

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  25. Sophia

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    Spasso can get away with the stronger steel valve stems as his wheels are aluminum. I don't think it would be advisable to put the steel valve stems on the factory magnesium wheels, as a "fuzzy science project could result" over time??? With the moisture inside the wheel, a scratch in the chrome stem/wheel paint?...steel and magnesium = bad. Reminds me of a few relationships I've had, all pretty, shiny and solid at first...only to end up in a black crumbling fuzz.

    I've seen some bubbling wheels here in the moist NW, the factory wheels love to bubble if not well primed and painted. Perhaps another reason to go with the nice aluminum repros. rims for cost & durablility...they are about 6-7 lbs. heavier than a stock mag. wheel though. PeterB.
     

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