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When, financially wise, did you buy your ferrari?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by stacrafty, Jun 8, 2005.

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  1. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

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    Actually, I live in Shanghai. 20 million people isn't exactly small.

    I live in a smaller town in the south when I am stateside, but that doesn't mean all of my property interests are in my backyard.
     
  2. Huskerbill

    Huskerbill F1 Rookie

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    Gotcha. I figured. ;-)

    Bill
     
  3. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

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    I am with you on that. I watched the ocean front property do its thing in Costa Rica and learned from that. Now am seeing the same thing going on all over central america. I just bough 2/3 acre of oceanfront on the Pacific coast of Nicaragua. Great area, very friendly people, safe environment and great growth opportunity. Also fully insured with First American Title. Lots of US and euro money flowing into the area from buyers thinking the same thing. Close to Granada which is a very cool colonial city in the mountains.
     
  4. stacrafty

    stacrafty Rookie

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    Hey thanks guys, lots of good replies.

    Its interesting to see peoples different perspectives on when to buy in terms of finances. It seems the consensus is to get a good base established first.

    The "pay cash" or finance issue, to me, comes down to the missed opportunity cost of what that money could be doing, vrs the cost of financing.

    I would probably want to buy with cash, as interest rates on cars (in NZ at least) are 10-15%. A while ago I qould have said that I could get double that in (leveraged) investment property (hence I would have financed), but since then the prices have risen faster than the rents, killing yeilds.

    So I'll get myself a house, then start slogging it out saving up.
     
  5. MARQ

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    Good decision!
     
  6. soarer 300

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    Wait Kevin!?!?!? I thought you already had one???

    These were posted YESTERDAY on Supraforums:
    Guys,

    I'd be a little careful in your dealings with Kevin. He's been misleading people over on Supraforums (and I'm sure other boards) about his accomplishments with his "shop" (which doesn't exist) and how many cars he's built, his "international driver's license," the Ferrari he owns, an "insulation business" that is really just a piece of paper (stagnant or not even real)--not to mention he did all this before his 16th birthday?

    He's claiming to own a Ferrari now on Supraforums but is actively looking for one on Ferrari chat--just 3 days apart? So Kevin, you bought one and had it back up on the market 2 days later because it was too expensive to keep up?

    Kevin, buddy...quit dreaming and lying to everyone on the Internet. Its okay not to have a Ferrari. You are doing a disservice to shops who actually build cars, have inventory, and do R&D.

    Best of luck to you and your company in the future, but its time you start telling the truth instead of stretching it until it breaks. Your business ventures won't last long at this pace.

    Regards,
    Cory
     
  7. Artvonne

    Artvonne F1 Veteran

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    I knew at 16 years old that you paid cash for a Ferrari. So I ditto the responses that you never finance a toy.

    I also know you "generally" never own something like that and then get married, as youll probably find the wrong women. Find a women and own a house first, and make sure the women knows your true desire, be honest and up front, and dont buy more car than you can truely afford. My wife knew I wanted a Fcar, and encourages me. I could have bought a 348 for cash but a beater 308 GTB makes more sense for now. No need to overextend eh? We both think we should have bought the 330 GTS two years ago listed for $69K, lol
     
  8. stacrafty

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    Generally, however if you ae very confident in your abilty to invest your money in something that returns a higher rate than the interest on your car loan, then you should finance as much of your ferrari as you can. Provided you have the financial discipline to manage it all.

    Generally though, as cars are not a stable asset (they depreciate) finance on them usually carries a large risk premium above the base rate. Hence the interest rate on car finance is usually pretty high and not many traditional asset classes can offer comparable returns.

    AS for the attracting the wrong kind of woman thing, well, I have considered this, but not that much, It could be a problem. It seems most of the woman I have are allmost turned off by someone being financially succesful at a young age, as the assume it means you are a tightwad or no fun. But then I'm talking about the 20-27 yr old age group that are into their hyper comsumerism and mainly just a bunch of airheads anyway.
     
  9. jsa330

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    Excellent advice for the young and single. If its what you want, do it. Life is definitely short. I look back and realize that I could have afforded to take my pick of probably 50% of the 60's Ferrari models when I got my first real salaried job in August 1977 after graduating in May.

    Fast forward> December 1, 2002:

    -Age 53, senior professional, well paid but probably on the more modest end by Fchat member standards.

    -House and 2 other cars paid for

    -No loans or debt outstanding, credit card balance paid off monthly

    -carrying full health, life, and disability insurance

    -my health excellent, wife has ongoing health problem but well insured.


    Paid all cash for purchase price and acquisition costs for 330 2+2. Did not finance purchase price even though I did have a home equity loan lined up to use if needed.

    Took on an extra project (large home for private client) and worked nights and weekends straight through for three months on top of my regular job to earn cash for reconditioning of 330.

    So, I now have a great running and dead-on reliable, very nice looking, sounding, and driving Vintage 2+2 in which I have invested 4x the price of a new one in the mid 60's. 100% paid for. To bring this car back to "new" or 95-point plus condition would cost an additional 40 to 50 grand, for a total investment of around $100K.

    An extra nice all original 330 2+2 would have been maybe $10K in 1978.

    No regrets at all. Life is looking way shorter from 55+. I'm just thankful to have been able to own one, however it happened.
     
  10. alleng

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  11. alleng

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  12. traimpz348

    traimpz348 Formula 3

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    Who cares what other people do when they buy a Ferrari or anything else for that matter. If you can afford it cash fine. If you can afford a monthly payment fine. If you want to lease it fine. What does it matter?
     
  13. MARQ

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    I agree.....but, damn, I didn't learn that as early as 16!
     
  14. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    When I could write the check and not worry about the money. I wanted a Ferrari since I was about 15 years old, couldn't afford one, got into bikes. My hero was John Surtess (sp?) who I had the good fortunate to meet once. Came from motorcycles to car, and the last person to have won world championships in both classes.

    Art
     

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