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When will Ferrari launch a HYBRID?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by lomotpk, Apr 2, 2004.

  1. lomotpk

    lomotpk Rookie

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    The trend is on to use electrical hybrid systems to boost the HP of conventional gas units.

    Lexus will soon announce:

    "300bhp 3.5-litre V6 mated to a 170bhp electric motor. Offering an astounding 470bhp, the car will feature all-wheel drive and be capable of around 60mpg.

    But if you think that sounds impressive, then just wait another 12 months, when Lexus' ultimate hybrid - the LS500 GT - will appear. Combining a 400bhp 5.0-litre V8 with a 200bhp electric motor, the car will offer at least 600bhp and be targeted at the Mercedes S-Class flagship, the S600L."
    -AutoExpress

    It is my prediction that by the end of the decade hybrids will be considered the 'performance option' on high end cars. M, AMG, and Audi Sport will take the base car (let's say 300hp gasoline engine) bump the gas engine (330hp?)
    and then ask you 'how much do you want?' whereupon they will then bolt on 100-400hp worth of electric motors to your ride.

    Resulting in 400-700hp 'factory' cars.

    Apply this to the high end of the market, ferrari et al. and it is not inconceivable that the 612 of 2010 could have 700-900hp (500-600hp V-12 + 2-300hp of electrics).

    My money is on AMG offering the first 1000hp unit they seem to be more hp drunk than anyone else at the moment.
     
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  3. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    The technology all sounds very exciting. And, yeah, AMG are probably the people to do it.. Although Honda and Lexus seem very gung-ho, so I wouldn't be surprised if it came from Asia.
     
  4. mk e

    mk e F1 World Champ

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    Never. I don't see ferrari add 500-800 lbs to on of their car on purpose. If they want 1000, adding more cubic inches or a turbo/supercharger will get them there for no more than 50 lbs. Remember these are suposed to be sports cars....I think the makers that are pursuing hybrids are doing it primarily to meet average corporate milage requirements and avoid the taxes for not meeting it. I'm pretty sure Ferrari understands it's hopeless for them.
     
  5. WCH

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    Q: "When will Ferrari launch a HYBRID?"


    A1: "Luca, come quick, there are pigs flying around outside the factory!"

    A2: "Tony, Tony, give it up, we just cannot run an all oval series now that it's frozen over down here."
     
  6. ATBNM3

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    LMAO
     
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  8. RacerX_GTO

    RacerX_GTO F1 World Champ
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    Hopefuly NEVER!

    Ferrari's do not constitute a majority of the cars spewing Mox/Co2 into the air and I predict that any introduction of 'earth friendly' gadgets will be met with great opposition in Ferrari world.

    The 'hybrid' is some environmentalists whacko's wet dream. Performance driving is not in their vision.
     
  9. scycle2020

    scycle2020 F1 Rookie

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    when we see hybrids in f1 racing, then we will see them in ferraris...dont hold your breath....
     
  10. madturk

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    Never I hope. Although the Cherokee Co. court ordered me to sell the Ferrari and buy a electric hybrid. I said NEVER.
     
  11. Seth

    Seth Formula 3

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    there going to have to stop building gas burning/internal combustion engines one day though as the worlds gas supply diminshes...

    however i think in the near future (20-30 years) all the major gas companys will ban together and create a CHEAP synthetic fuel, with no emmisions... theyll do this because, well they wont have any other supply line, and the middle east will get involved as all there money comes from oil and gas
     
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  13. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    there already is a cheap synthetic fuel. and " they " are not going to let "us" have it, as you said , for some time.
     
  14. jmiles360

    jmiles360 Karting

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    Hybrids are cool technology, and they have potential adaptation for sports cars, but you have to remember that they add a lot of weight to the car. The only way I can see Ferrari launching a hybrid before the next 20 years is if the weight penality is severly cut down.

    Whats next, a Ferrari Diesel?
     
  15. ferrari_kid

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    I remember watching a show on the Discovery Channel a while back where a Japanese car company was able to produce a hybrid sports car. It had some type of electrical supercharger and it put out 300+hp with over 40mpg. I wish I could remember what show that was.
     
  16. mk e

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    You've got to remember that when you see hybrid hp claims, that is the engine plus the electric motor. So all the energy to run the electric motor is coming from the batteries. With the amount of batteries you can carry in a car, you might get 5-15 minutes before the batteries are completely dead and you lose about 2/3 or the power (1/3-1/2 for the electric motor and part of the gas engine to charge the batteries). A 10 or 15 lbs nitrous tank is probably a better way to go.
     

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