Hello All, I'm usually out and about on the road and always on the hunt to see some Ferraris. It always makes my day to see a newer model. But I've noticed that's all I usually see. I don't see 308's, TR's, 348 or 456's. Where are they? I usually stop at Corona Cigar on Sand Lake Rd and usually see some of the newer Models. Is it no longer cool to own an older Ferrari? If that's the case I hope to be uncool really soon. Ron
There are a lot more modern Ferraris in existance than there are older ones because they build more cars per year these days. My first GT4 had a chassis number of 11100. So up until 1975 they built fewer cars in total than the number of 360s built. Plus you have to be a bit more careful with the weather when taking out your '70s Ferrari because it won't resist rust as well as a modern.
Wow! you're in Florida, you have many more cars and year-round driving. In Minnesota most Ferrari owners rarely see another except at the shop or some event. There are quite a few out there. More than ten years ago the shop I was at had a mailing list of over 300 Minnesota registered Ferraris. We were one of only two shops that fixed exotics and we had never seen most of them. Many of our cars had Wisconsin or Florida (cheaper license) plates.
you said: I don't see 308's, TR's, 348 or 456's. Where are they? I thought you meant OLDER, like the Daytona I saw going into Sonoma last thursday [5PM] from Kenwood that's old ....I KNOW he saw my Ferrari Shield on the rear of my PU Window. I have a Mondial T cab red/tan that I take out as much as possible when the Sun is out....to the store, around the Sonoma Square, run into an Mondial QV all the time.... Also, just got a 456 which I'm driving a lot of lately... Saw a green 328 on HW 12 from Santa Rosa to Sonoma this morning. So, point being the 'older' cars are out....However, hardly ever, ever get to see the 50's 60's stuff.
i don't see many older ferraris either. my mom saw a testarossa today. i think i've seen one other testarossa on northern va roads in the last 20 years! the most common older ferrari here is the 308. always nice to see one on the road. i saw an F40 twice, too. john
Thankfully most owners of Classic and Vintage Ferrari's don't think about it as being cool. There's way much more to it than that.
I see Ferrari's all the time, living in South Florida. Most are newer models. But I see some old ones. Saw a nice late 80's-early 90's TR yesterday while on my way to a car show. Come to the Celebration show and you'll see some older cars, I am likely bringing mine up. http://www.celebrationexoticcars.com/
I think you will see alot less of that stuff in the next 5 - 10 years as more 360s hit market and the 430 run is over. Soon it will be where did all the 355s go ?
You should go to the Concorso Italiano or log on to Concorso.com then tell us if that's good enough for you.
You should plan on attending the Cavalino Classic next year. Here are a few pics from this year. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
BTW I have never seen so many 430s in one town as I did in Palm Beach. Not in the show, just driving to the show. Seems like production is too high. It is watering down the excitement for the brand. Its like, oh just another 430. It was actually more fun to see an old 308 go by.
I agree about never seeing them. Excluding Ferrari club gatherings, my on-the-road sightings here in San Diego/The OC over the past two years have included: 1 308 GTS QV (in prugna, believe it or not...) 1 F355 GTB in black 2 Testarossas, both in red (one on I-5, the other up in Walnut Creek in northern CA) 1 348 TS, red, at a small independent used car lot 1 550 in silver 1 575 in black metallic (special order color) 1 456 in blue Other than that, all 360s and a black Enzo at the mall. Like all of you, I'm always looking, even when I'm out in the Jeep. And this is southern California. And San Diego and The OC are about as affluent as it gets. I would guess the collector value of the cars has a lot of guys keeping the miles off. Great pics. But I think the OP's point was that you never see these cars on the road. It's not too hard to go see a bunch of trailer queens on a golf course.
Hell for me it's like that now. Here I've seen one 3X8 driving, on HWY50/Good Homes intersection, and that's really about it in terms of "older" Ferraris. There is apparently a white TR in neighborhood close to mine, but I've never ever seen it. Usually I drive around on Saturday/SUnday mornings in Windermere hoping for a glimpse of SOMETHING, but more often than not I am disappointed.
We do our best to help out in New England. We have plently of 3x8s, 348s, and 355s in the local area and we all drive them. No trailer queens here. Can't wait until spring.
Ouch ... that's cruel. As soon as my TR is out of the shop I will have it back on the road in the Orlando area. I drive it all the time. Check the Florida section for more info on gatherings in the area.
I think most older ones in Charlote Area are really in the shop. I know of a few, including mine that I saw at the same shop yesterday. I get mine back Friday though.
In the twin cities area if i see a ferrari its usually an "older" one, it would seem that we are the other way around. We have a few f430s but quite a few 328s and 308s in the area. But you are right you do seem to see the newer ones on the road more often, however here it seems that the numbers favor the "older" cars so i see more variety of them but i see the same 360 and 430 atleast 2-3 times a week rain or shine (but not snow so i havent seen them in a while).
I think a lot of this has to do with the climate - in states plagued with snow and ice, its a regular knee-jerk reaction of the local Govt. to dump metric tons of corrosive salt and abrasive sand onto the road whenever we get some precipitation. This mix is not-at-all pleasant for 'nice' automobiles - and it doesn't go away until the Spring Rains wash this crap off the highways. Older cars all hibernate when the salt/sand season arrives, especially those made with steel unibody construction. These cars appear to be much more susceptible to serious corrosion from the inside of the chassis/frame from the salt and moisture, an issue Ferrari did not attempt to address adequately until the mid-1980s. Now, if you have a newer, aluminum car that is more impervous to road salt and high moisture, you 'can' drive it all year round. And I suspect many enthusiasts would take advantage of that during the winter months if driving conditions allowed. I also understand that many newer steel-bodied Ferraris are made from Galvanized steel vs. earlier cars made prior to 1989, and these bodies hold up much better in bad weather. Short of throwing a timing belt, the worst thing that can happen to a Ferrari is probably having rust set in......so many of your 'older' car owners are much more sensitive to this issue than 'newer' car owners who can run in pretty much any weather/climate so long as they can maintain tire traction.
Point taken about the road salt. I lived in Cleveland and Chicago, and it destroys cars. But... those of us in southern CA don't have this issue. And I still have never seen another 328 on the road, maybe 1 or 2 308s, no Dinos, no Boxers, maybe 1 Mondial a few years back... As a 328 owner, I can say that the car is daily driver reliable (although inconvenient in some situations...) But here's the real reason: People want to keep miles off the older cars, so they don't drive them. There are just too many '80s cars for sale with under 10K miles. This week I noticed a TR with 2K miles, two 328s with 4K miles, and the list goes on. If you wonder why they're never on the road, these cars that might as well still have their window stickers in place are part of the reason.
Sad but true Cars are meant to be driven IMO. As someone said, if you just want to look at the car then buy a poster.