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Where have all the 3*8s gone?

Discussion in 'Australia' started by pacoll, May 28, 2015.

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  1. pacoll

    pacoll Karting

    Oct 4, 2007
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    Gold Coast, Qld
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    Perry Collier
    Hi all, LONG (too) term Ferrari wanna/gunna be owner (Moretti can attest to that - haven't given up the fight mate!)...

    Where have all the 3*8s gone from carsales? Have watched that market for years for a long time there was ALWAYS something for sale - now nothing... Just wondering what's going on? And what are prices doing these days? Last night I saw a 308 GTS Qv up for $100K (not listed now though) - surely that guy is having a go??

    Thrilled to see all the oldies running around the Goldie - stumbled on a carb 308 GTB at Royal Pines (looked like it was set up for track) and was like a kid in a lolly shop - even though it was parked next to a stunning red 458 (RED458), the old 308 had me salivating...

    Cheers
    Pez
     
  2. pacoll

    pacoll Karting

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    41 views and no replies, perhaps it has everyone stumped!
     
  3. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 1, 2003
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    They're all on a boat to China ..... and you should have bought my QV mate, Troy offered it to you for $100k, that is $20k less than you will pay now :p

    The guy from Bacchus Marsh who bought my car must be laughing
     
  4. FGT3

    FGT3 Karting

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  5. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    don't kid yourself, that was a rough and tired car, you did well to shift it.

    Horse is the yardstick for QV's. You can't seriously claim your car was within cooee of it.
     
  6. 308GTS78

    308GTS78 Rookie

    Feb 19, 2014
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    I have noticed the lack of 308's on car sales as well. This time last year there were 6 or 7 308's on car sales between 40K to 70K. Prices gradually increased but not by much, but of late they are priced from 70K up to 100K +. If any appear they disappear just as quickly.
     
  7. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Have a look at 355s and 360s...same thing. Compared to a couple of years ago there's almost nothing.

    Probably all broken down and the owners can't afford to fix them.
     
  8. Bounce

    Bounce Formula 3

    Nov 30, 2009
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    I remember when there was almost 200 360s listed on carsales... there's 27 currently!
     
  9. FGT3

    FGT3 Karting

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    If Rardley can get 90,000 pounds for a RHD carb GTS then Australian 308 have been very cheap at world market levels and leaving the country. Of course condition is relative. Quite a few US LHD cars came here several years ago. Some of them may have been offered at high $40k.
     
  10. wrxmike

    wrxmike Moderator
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    Your point is valid, but there where never 200 360's on Carsales, the maximum was around 240 Ferrari's, with close to 50 360's advertised at one stage.

    Surprisingly, they where not that common at the National Rally.

    M
     
  11. wrxmike

    wrxmike Moderator
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    Yes. The trend to send 308's overseas started last year and has gathered pace.

    A Red / Tan Aussie delivered Carb 308 GTS in excellent condition with no stories and books and tools is a unicorn car at the moment.

    308 GTS LHD sold $59K 2 weeks ago. That was too cheap, (because it works out to be less than 30K pounds ). No doubt it will be for sale for double that in the UK in the next 2 months. Nice little earner.

    M
     
  12. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Bull****, that car was mechanically perfect and despite the crap that goes on here about the things that happened to it, it only ever had problems with the springs which were replaced twice.

    I never said my 4 or 5 owner car matched Horse's one owner car but it was no piece of **** either, 0.3 slower around the clubman circuit at QR.

    Serviced EVERY year by Marc with standing orders to replace anything that needed replacing and there were many 000s spent replacing suspension, brake rotors, new shocks, springs, injectors, plug leads, crack testing all A arms, new Mille Miglia exhaust, etc etc etc

    I was totally honest with the new owner and he was happy to hop in and drive it back to Victoria without having test drove it. It made it easily , all the things that COULD have let it down had been replaced and it never broke down on me in the many trips around this country it made.

    I had 2 calls after I sold it before I got to remove it from carsales from genuine buyers (maybe) and several others "enquiring" , it'd be gone in a flash now for a lot more than I was asking back then but still only took me 5-6 weeks to sell in any case at a time when "great" cars were sitting there for years

    Anyway, I remember a supercar expert saying it drove "sweet" :p
     
  13. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



    Sounds like you just cracked another front spoiler :D
     
  14. FGT3

    FGT3 Karting

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    Simple fact is that even shabby Dino 6's have been bringing increasingly big money. Naturally 308 S and B which are arguably a better car in some aspects and arguably a replacement model for the baby F car, must start to bridge the value gap to some degree and that survivors, especially euro spec, especially RHD are less common than those in F car circles may realise.
     
  15. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    No, just my head again :)
     
  16. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    That's the only reason I can understand the rise in value in 308s.....the price of a 246 HAS to dictate the price of a 308.

    Which car is 'better', however, is irrelevant.

    Does this mean they're worth the money? That I don't know...I just think that now the comparative value between them makes some sense. a $400k+ 246 and $70k 308 didn't make sense to me at all.
     
  17. FGT3

    FGT3 Karting

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    Agreed.
     
  18. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    So bitter.
     
  19. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    fixed
     
  20. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I still don't get it.

    Just because the 246 is a $400K car, why can't the 308 stay a $70K car?

    Why isn't my 348 a $400K car?

    Answer the hard questions Pless!
     
  21. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    it can stay a 70k, but to me, it just seemed like the gap was too big.
     
  22. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Do you feel the same way about the price gap now between the 308 and 328?

    Then what happens with the price gap between the 328 and 348? Will we see the prices of the 328 and 348 Ferraris trend upwards.

    I am a seller of my car @ $250K. If you know of any buyers, please let me know.
     
  23. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Dreamin' or crack; what is it?
     
  24. wrxmike

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    246 is not a 400K car, unless it needs a lot of work.
    For a platinum level concours winner you will need a lot more than 400K . A lot.

    348 is not a carby car. And it never had a strong following.
    The price increases are strongest for chrome bumper cars. People like them, they are simple, raw and fun to drive. 246 are "pretty" cars as well, lots of elegant curves.
     
  25. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    328s have gone through the roof.
     

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