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  1. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    #1 Sempre_gilles, Jan 12, 2005
    At the moment I am creating a list of all Ferrari models, and try to find the corresponding chassis en engine type for each model. Examples:

    Dino 308GT4 : chassis type F106AL and engine type F106A
    275 GTB 4cam: chassis type 596 and engine type 226.

    For a lot of models this information can be found in literature like books related to the specific model, in magazines like Cavallino or in the user manual (available on the owners site) but for others I can' t find it.

    Any suggestions where this type of info is available?
     
  2. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

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    #2 Bryan, Jan 12, 2005
    What chassis and engine types are you still looking for? Maybe this forum can help.

    .
     
  3. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    #3 Sempre_gilles, Jan 13, 2005
    To give a few more examples: The engine type of the 208 GT4 is F106C (found this in the Bluemel book "Original Ferrari V8") but chassis type is unknown to me.

    250 GT Lusso Berlinetta: engine type 168, chassis type unknown.

    195 Inter: both chassis type and engine type unknown.

    The only source I could think of which might help is the original Ferrari build sheets which are available on the owner's site. But perhaps somebody compiled a similar list already???
     
  4. trkevin

    trkevin Formula Junior

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    #4 trkevin, Jan 13, 2005
    For the 250 GT Lusso I have chassis type 508.

    For the 195 Inter I have chassis type 195 Inter and engine type 195.
     
  5. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    #5 Sempre_gilles, Jan 13, 2005
    OK, tried to get a build sheet via the owners site. Result: this is only possible if you actually own the car (no surprise there). So this really is not a feasible source of info. Any other suggestions?
     
  6. trkevin

    trkevin Formula Junior

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    #6 trkevin, Jan 13, 2005
    The types I gave above came from the Building Sheets.
     
  7. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    #7 Sempre_gilles, Jan 14, 2005
    Yesterday I did some further research and found in one of the earliest copies of Cavallino that the chassis type of the 250 GT Lusso is 539....

    According to the same source (Cavallino) chassis type 508 is of the 250 Europa GT, while there is also a chasis type 508C (250 GT PF cabriolet and 250 GT Spyder California), a 508D (again 250 GT Spyder California) and 508E (330 America and 250 GTE).

    Since the 250 GT Lusso was build a few years later, chassis type 539 seems more likely. On the other hand, the words "Ferrari" and "logical numbering system" simply don't fit....
     
  8. gtofreak

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    #8 gtofreak, Jan 14, 2005
    Here's a short list:

    Type Model
    500 500 Mondial/750Monza
    501 500 Mondial
    502
    503
    504 250 Monza/500 Mondial
    505 375 Plus Spider
    506
    507
    508 250
    508 B 250
    508 C 250
    508 D 250
    508 E 250
    508 F 250
    509 121 LM 6 cyl
    510 750 Monza/500 Mondial
    511 625 Formula 1
    512
    513 250 Coupé
    514 410 SA/410 Sport
    514 A 410 SA
    515
    516
    517 250 TR/61
    518 500 TR
    518 C 500 TRC
    519 C 410 Sport
    520 860 M/290 MM/315 S
    520 B 335 Sport
    521
    522
    523
    524 412 MI
    525 250 TR
    526 250 TR
    526 B 250 TR
    527
    528 290 MM
    529 C 296 Sport
    530
    531
    532 D 250 TR/59
    533
    534
    535
    536
    537
    538 U 400 SA
    539 250 SWB/SWB Cal/GTO
    539 U 250 GT Lusso
    540
    541
    542
    543
    544 246 Dino
    545
    546 246 Dino Formula One
    547 250 TR/61
    548
    549
    550
    551
    552
    553
    554
    555
    556
    557
    558
    559
    560
    561 248 SP/246 SP
    562
    563 275 GTB/GTS
    564 250 P/275 P
    564 C 330 P
    565
    566 330 LM 3765
    567
    568 330 TRI
    569
    570
    571 330 GT 2+2
    572
    573 166 P/206 P
    574 330 LM
    575
    576
    577 250 LM
    577 A 365 P Guida Centrale
    578 500 SF
    579
    580
    581 365 P2
    582
    583
    584
    585 206 P Dino Proto/206 SP
    586
    587
    588
    589
    590 275 GTB/C
    591 365 GT 2+2
    592 330 GTC/330 GTS
    592 C 365 GTC/365 GTS
    593
    594
    595
    596 275 GTB/4
    597
    598 365 California
    599 206 Dino
    600 212 E Montagna
    601
    602 166 Formula 2
    603 330 P3/412 P, later 512 S
    604 330 P4
    605 365 GTB/4
    606
    607
    608
    609
    610
    611
    612
    613
    614 250 P6
    615 A 312 P
    616 365 GTC/4
     
  9. Napolis

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    #9 Napolis, Jan 14, 2005
    Hi

    "603 330 P3/412 P, later 512 S
    604 330 P4" ????


    "330 P3/P4-
    SCHEDA TECNICA

    330 P3/P4 (1967)
    Telaio N 0846
    Trasformazione di un modello P3
    secondo le caratteristiche del modello
    P4

    TELAIO

    Telaio Tipo 593/603
    Trasformazione della parte posteriore
    tubolare del motore
    237"
     
  10. Bryanp

    Bryanp F1 Rookie

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    #10 Bryanp, Jan 14, 2005
    gtofreak:
    Series I 500 Mondials were tipo 501 chassis and S. II Mondials were tipo 510.
    I am not at all familiar with tipo 500 or 504 chassis as having ever been made for a 500 Mondial - which cars are these? I agree w/ tipo 504 being for a 250 Monza.

    In 1988, Gerald Roush had in the FML vol.13, no.8, his version of the factory's list of engine type numbers - and associated w/ each motor tipo, the chassis tipo. In that list he puts the type 107 motor (straight 4, 2.5 liter formula 1) with chassis type 500 - so not a 500 Mondial.

    Type 504 in Gerald's list is associated w/ motor tipo 117, 3 liter v-12 (Colombo) for the Monza S.
     
  11. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    #11 Sempre_gilles, Jan 17, 2005
    This is what I could find up to now, mainly from Cavallino magazine. Anyone who can fill the gaps or perhaps clarify conflicting info with other lists???
     
  12. Sempre_gilles

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    #12 Sempre_gilles, Jan 17, 2005
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  13. Dino 208gt4

    Dino 208gt4 F1 World Champ

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    #13 Dino 208gt4, Jan 17, 2005
    Hi Ad,
    a 208gt4 has chassistype F106CL
     
  14. piloti

    piloti Formula 3
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    #14 piloti, Sep 18, 2012
    Very helpful list - thank you.
    The 290 MM is a type 520 chassis, not 528 (the same chassis type as an 860 Monza. The same chassis no. for both tipos, although one has a 4 cyl engine and the other has a V-12)
    Has anyone any more numbers to add to this list (after all this time?)
    Nathan
     
  15. John Vardanian

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    #15 John Vardanian, Sep 18, 2012
    The 250GT PF Coupe date should be 1958, chassis 508 and engine 128.

    john
     

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