Where to go after 458?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Evo X, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. stan996turbo

    stan996turbo Formula Junior

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  3. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

    Dec 9, 2014
    The 458 marked the end of the analog Ferraris. The trend with all modern super cars has been focused on objective excellence with the concommitant emphasis on comfort, refinement and ease of drivability. For those who place greater preference on a rawer, more engaging driving experience, cars like 488, 720S , while stellar performers, may be found lacking in emotion which is frequently the collateral damage to the grind of technological progress. Turbo power plants, while offering massive amounts of power, push cars away from individual personalities and towards conformity. The last of the NA , immersive and unfiltered super cars at present are represented by the Ferrari V12s and the Lamborghini Performante and EVO RWD. The EVO RWD, sacrifices technical, objective capabilities, with a thrill factor, and playfulness arguably unmatched by any other and at an attractive price. The Performante is noticeably more capable, and faster and still possesses a high degree of excitement.

    All super cars offer extremely high levels of performance, but they exhibit differing driving dynamics and personalities which may or may not suit a particular preference. Driving them is essential in order to make a satisfying purchasing decision that will comport with one's preferences and priorities.
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  4. stan996turbo

    stan996turbo Formula Junior

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    I think the 458 can only be considered analog in a relative sense. The last vestige of analog design left after the 355 and 550.
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  5. Ash Patel

    Ash Patel Formula Junior

    Dec 12, 2015
    Stockholm, Sweden
    There are so many good choices to go from 458 like the Speciale, Pista, 765LT, 675LT, Huracan Perfomante or EVO RWD, newest iteration of the 3RS the list can be long. As a 458 owner not hating on the 458 but it is borderline ignorant to say there is not both better sounding, performing and feeling cars today vs the 458 if you care to spend som extra cash :)
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  6. 7ven11ven

    7ven11ven Rookie
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    I love my 488 but my Ford Mustang Gt350 has been hands down my most favorite car I’ve owned.
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  8. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Rookie

    Jan 30, 2013
    I was a co-driver in a speciale a short distance and I hate the sports seat belts in it, I would rather have the "normal" 458, that has normal seat belts .
  9. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Rookie

    Jan 30, 2013
    I don't like the looks of the Huracan, the last pretty Lambo was the Gallardo.
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  10. dalaalsingh

    dalaalsingh Rookie

    Nov 19, 2017
    I'm interested in your 458 if you are selling. DM me. Thanks

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  11. Geoff Clark

    Geoff Clark Rookie

    Jan 21, 2018
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    Have you tested a Speciale or Pista. If not I think that should be your next move.
    Iv'e had my 458 4years it's a keeper & is just perfect for me. The only other car I would change it for would be a Gordon the purist Murray T50. But they were sold out in 48hrs though they're a bit pricey, but worth every cent. Think MacLaren F1 next level. YouTube for a Murray appraisal.
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  13. ChairmanJohn

    ChairmanJohn Rookie

    Mar 5, 2013
    Bucks UK
    I drove my 458 Spider home from the factory in 2013 and still love it. Sure the F8 will be faster but somehow the 458 has a special character - maybe it's the engine note? I still think it still looks wonderful with such pure lines and I'm sure it will go down in history as one of the greats. About the time I collected my 458, I had the chance to drive an F12 on the road and compared to the 458 I thought it just too big UNTIL I took the Sport driving course at Fiorano where for two days we jumped from 458 to F12 to 458 and were continually told "More Gas, More Gas!" by the instructors. It was then I realised what an amazing machine the V12 car was and so much more powerful. I couldn't wait for my next turn in the F12 it was so good (the 458 was fantastic too!). Last year I bought a SF and my GTS arrived last week and it's incredible. Now I own the last of the n/a V8's and V12's - they look magnificent and sound magnificent - do I need more? For me they are keepers with no hybridisation to ever worry about (only fuel availability.......).
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  14. mdrums

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    What makes a 458 more "analog" than a 488 or F8? If your answer is turbo's that is not the answer....Turbo's are not digital and have been in use in performance cars for decades as you all well know...
  15. blkdiablo33

    blkdiablo33 F1 Rookie

    Jul 12, 2004
    i prefer the racing seats ,to me they feel more comfy than reg seats
  16. Pinab7

    Pinab7 Rookie

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    Another vote for the 458. It is my first Ferrari but I can't imagine selling it. It is a 2014 Italia bought in 2018 with only 3K miles. My must haves were CF seats and wheel. I have had other sports cars and I have tracked Formula Dodges and Radicals. The driving experience just seems so pure, and the electronics, which you don't feel until you need them, are sublime. I will drive an F8, but I just cant believe the experience merits double the current value of the 458.
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  17. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
    If you're after value for money you could consider the 488 - I know there are many turbo haters but at current prices, marginally higher than 458 ones, you get a lot more power, performance and technical refinements. There is more difference between a 458 and a 488 (performance-wise) than between a 488 and an F8, and on the other hand the price gap is far smaller.
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  18. Pinab7

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    The lines on the 488 don't do it for me. The F8 is a little better.
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  19. dustman

    dustman F1 Veteran
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    Curious what your list would look like?
    Performante, GT500, SVJ, Pagani, LaFfer, TDF, ...?
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  20. Mighty Joe

    Mighty Joe Formula 3

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    That mustache front end on the 458 always looked way awkward to me! Kinda silly really.. The looks and performance of the 488 is stellar! The looks and performance of the F8 is spectacular!
  21. gds7368

    gds7368 Rookie

    May 28, 2015
    Columbus, Ohio
    I moved from a 430 to a 458 to a F12. As the last Pininfarina-designed Ferrari, with a naturally aspirated v12, I’ll add that I just love every minute in the F12. It’s more of a daily driver car, still handles well and is definitely more comfortable than the 458. But extremely exciting to drive. At times I miss the exhaust note of the 458 - never driven or owned any else that sounded as good as stomping on the 458. But otherwise the F12 is every bit as fun, beautiful and rewarding to own. Driving a Roma this weekend to consider adding to the garage, but the the F12 isn’t going anywhere. I’ve never drive an 812 BTW, but would consider it with an open mind. Just find it LESS exciting visually, and feel NO NEED for an upgrade at the moment. I’ve always thought the ultimate test of a car is whether you would miss it when it’s gone, so please make sure you like the turbocharged direction before jumping into that pool. So far I’m naturally aspirated all the way - and loving every minute.
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  22. ferrarifam

    ferrarifam Karting
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    Nothing even remotely close in price can compete with the viceral sound of the Ferrari 458! The best sounding car for the money ever made.
  23. JAhmed

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    I already bought his car
  24. njcycleguy

    njcycleguy Formula Junior
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    I thought I was the only one that felt this way. The 458 is the OG. Every mid-engine variant since has just been an (arguably) better version of the 458, including the F8.

    My road has been 360 Modena -> F430 Spider -> 458 Italia -> Testarossa -> 355 Spider -> 488 GTB -> FF -> 458 Italia -> 458 Spider -> 488 Pista -> 488 Spider. Still have the 488 Spider & Testarossa. Should have never sold the 355 Spider. I loved the Pista - but I really wanted a Spider again - so around we go.

    I have an F8 spider on order but not really 100% on it. I've resisted the temptation to any of the other "dark sides" (except Porsche, which to me doesn't count, of which I've owned most recently a 991 GT3 and a 992 Cab) - although I'll admit the 600LT Spyder is looking appealing.
  25. F11

    F11 Karting

    Aug 2, 2005
    F12 or 430 Scuderia
  26. cole328

    cole328 Formula Junior

    May 9, 2014
    Get an f430 spider... a step back in variant, of course, but that rear engine glass, that engine sound...perfection ( to me).

    Enjoy the search.. looking forward to seeing what you get

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  27. bakes17

    bakes17 Karting

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  28. Petrolhead#32

    Petrolhead#32 Karting

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    458 speciale. Big enough difference from 458 Italia and still the thrill of a NA V8 Ferrari!
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