Not really. It just has to look identical. How many people can push an Enzo to even 90% of it's capability? Not many. So a replicar (sic) just has to look "reaL" and do say 100 mph. Enough to fool people. Look at knock off watches. The good ones are perfect. Just don't get the gold ones because the gold they use makes your wrist go blue/green !! However the platinum ones look absolutely real. I have a few real watches and some fakes and the fakes are really really really good AND they cost say $60 if you know where to go but the real one costs $10,000. It is incredible what they can do. I bet they could make an Enzo for less than $75k. How many wannabees in China and in the USA would fork out $75k for an Enzo ? Of course in the USA Ferrari SpA might have a few words to say but in China and Russia for that matter???? John
In that reverse engineering was mentioned I assumed it would be rather more sophisticated than your typical Fiero based nightmare. Hence the assumed price tag.
If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gives it to. - Dorothy Parker.
Great quote. I think God may have a perverse sense of humor in that if he wants to see someone unravel themselves, he just gives them a bunch of money. If he wants to really watch them go to hell, he just gives them a taste for money. Pun intended. George
YOU should know of what "quality" f.e. the original Pistons of Maranello are. An Engine put together with parts of this "quality" is - sorry - rubbish. Interesting is only the free choice of the Engine-Number - to create a "new" matching-number-car. btw, she´s gone for enough money to be saved. I hope so.
Er, they built the original engines so I can't see the difference ... or is this another example of people hotting up original motors so these old cars are now faster than they ever would have been. All a bit rediculous, Ferrari won Le Mans and many other races back in the day with pistons made in Maranello ... Pete
With all this talk about the newly made engines being no good, I'd like to see some motivation of the reasons why, and some concrete examples. I would imagine that re-creating a 250 engine of any description could be made better today, as we have access to much better materials as well as better machinery to produce them with. A new engine could also be built to the client's specific needs, i.e. big valve heads, high compression pistons etc from the start, without the need to re-engineer a stock street engine to race spec if that is the intended use.
Tom, can you elaborate on this. Do you mean they literally do not run? If that is what you are saying can you provide a story, please. George
I guess this is mostly true for the 250, and to a lesser extent, 275 engines. I would imagine later type engines will remain inexpensive in comparison. In hearing about the issues with the repro 250 engines, it makes me better understand that buying any 250-powered car with a rebuildable engine for $60K represents great value. buying one with a fresh motor for $90K represents great value as well. If the factory were able do deliver a great engine block and heads for something like $50K, things may be different.
Silly comment Tom. They will eventually, as nothing that was made in the past cannot be remade now. Heck if I had a 250 engine in my shed I could replicate it ... Pete
Mike Sheehan is selling a NOS F40 engine ( http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=FE-F40ENG-25627 ) for $40,000. Drop that baby in this GTE and you would really have something! (an F40 GTE perhaps?)
But is the car the engine going to be used for also in the USA? If it is, then same theory applies just that unfortunately one American is also taking his/her racing too seriously. Pete
I know what you're saying Pete but one look at the (very good) 250PF registry will show you most of the "deceased" cars were cut up for vanity reasons, recreating other more "desirable" Ferraris from scratch as opposed to keeping racers running. Both suck IMO I should add.
How do you know that? The cars ripped apart for spares don't very often reappear anywhere... Best wishes, Kare
By looking at the 250PF register as I said. In there you have a whole cornucopia of ****ty receations that have never and will never see the track. I'm sure it's the same for GTEs, 330 2+2s and so on. I see what you mean though in that all the missing cars could well have been broken for spares.
