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Which Ctek charger best for 430 (price not being object)?

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  1. F430 Driver

    F430 Driver Formula Junior

    Apr 23, 2008
    473
    Central New Jersey
    Well gorgeous day here in NJ. Went to drive F430. Dead battery. OEM charger is dead. Started researching here the last 2 hours on best chargers to replace instead of the not so good 400 dollar plus Ferrari OEM charger.

    Seems the ones that come up are the Ctek 7002, 3300 and 4.3. Am I missing a better one?

    Price aside is the 7002 the absolute best?

    Also can I chop the charging cable off the dead OEM charger and wire it into the new Ctek charger? My 430 had the factory installed tender so it is already in place and mounted on the passenger side footwell. If I can hack that off and splice it right into a ctek I don't even have to pop the battery plate off if it can take a charge. I could not find the wire/pin schematic for the OEM plug. I see most just put the Ctek plug right on the battery. Has anyone spliced the OEM charger plug into a ctek and if so can you explain how to do properly?

    Also what is the correct procedure on the 430 after a dead battery revival? Start it and let it run for 10 minutes stopped in idle with everything off (lights, wipers, ac, etc)? Anything else?

    Thanks!
     
  2. dadswrld

    dadswrld Karting

    Jan 4, 2010
    175
    Toronto, Ont
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    JR
    I can't necessarily comment on what the best charger is (although I have seen the discussion popping around here somewhere), I will say that whatever you get from ctek, should come with additional attachments.

    So what I'm saying is, don't do any splicing, chopping of any sort and risk having a short of any kind. There is a DIY on installing the charger for the 430. I don't think it will take that long to do and you will rest assure that there isn't any reason for the wiring to give to any grief.

    As for the relearning process, if you need it, is also popping around the forum, search the key words and it should appear.

    Just my 2 pennies (although we phased them out recently)!
     
  3. Trent

    Trent Formula 3

    Dec 10, 2003
    2,013
    Indialantic, FL
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    Trent
    My Vote is: CTEK 4.3. If you want to spend more money, just dont shop around and pay a premium for it ;) or you could order a few extra pigtails for your motorcycle and wife's mercedes. Amazon has it cheap.

    +1; just install the new CTEK directly to the battery, it takes less time than you spent writing your post.

    DIY: here-> http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/395948-diy-battery-tender-installation-f430-360-ctek-4-3-a.html
     
  4. vincep99

    vincep99 Formula 3
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    Jun 8, 2009
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    I know the feeling; went to start the 360, dead battery. My fault as I did not keep the charger on it long enough this winter.

    I think the only difference between the 4.3 and the 7002 is the peak charging amps: the 4.3 has 4.3 amp, the 7002 has 7 amp. Both have 8 phases of charging.

    I was also going to splice the new charger into the old cable but I agree 100% with the others: it is so easy to use the right cable just go ahead and do it. If you don't have an insulated wrench like in the one post, just loosen and lower the battery hold-down so it is out of the way.
     
  5. timba

    timba Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2012
    258
    Nor Cal
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    If you have the factory connection in the footwell, use it! Making an additional connection to the battery should be reserved for cars that don't have the factory option. The downside of adding a new CTEK connector directly to battery is that you are loosing the built in safety feature where the factory charger prevents you from accidentally driving away with the charger connected. It gives you a warning on the display showing the charger is connected if you try to start the car.

    Trent's write up is great for non-factory optioned cars, but for ones with the factory charger connector, Warren has a more appropriate solution:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/141102598-post12.html
     
  6. Zxgarage

    Zxgarage Formula Junior
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    Jan 21, 2011
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    Ctek is good, but how about the save-a-battery ?

    The Deltran tender is worst... I have over twenty of it and already replace six... works bad and keep letting me down. I have three ctek... use oem from porsche and ferrari. but the saveabattery can recharge from zero.
     
  7. F430 Driver

    F430 Driver Formula Junior

    Apr 23, 2008
    473
    Central New Jersey
    Thanks for the info! Very helpful. I was between the 4.3 and the 7002 and decided for the 7002 as it is only 30 bucks more and why not have the extra amps available?

    I am due for annual service so going to have the dealer pickup the car and drop an Interstate battery into it while its there as the OEM Ferrari battery is over 5 years old. Amazing it lasted this long actually.

    On another car forum I read guys warning that these things can be sensitive to power surges and also push this through your cars electrical if there is a surge. Is it best practice to put the tender on a surge protector for add'l safety? I have a whole house surge protector but put most of my electronics (i.e. computers, dvr's, projectors) on additional back UPS/Surge setups. I didn't do this for my tender before but little more paranoid now after reading all that.
     
  8. jlonmark

    jlonmark F1 Rookie

    Mar 29, 2005
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    Want to buy another stock one brand new in the box?

    pm me
     
  9. F430 Driver

    F430 Driver Formula Junior

    Apr 23, 2008
    473
    Central New Jersey
    Just an update for those in similar situation.

    As noted in my earlier post I opted for the Ctek 7002 instead of the 4.3 simply because you get more amperage and it is only a few bucks more than the 4.3.

    Ok so my OEM 5 year old battery was dead. 0 volts. Probably sitting that way for at least 2 or 3 weeks as the Ferrari OEM tender died and I did not realize it.

    I hooked up the Ctek but it did nothing due to the 0 volts on the battery. It thought it was not even hooked up! I used one of those older larger chargers by Century ( Century 87105C Battery Charger ) to blast 10 amps into the battery as it is not dependent on seeing voltage like the Ctek. I did this for maybe an hour. It was enough to bring the voltage up to the point the Ctek would recognize it and go to work.

    I left the Ctek on for about 7 hours total and the car started up. I let it idle for 15 minutes to allow the computer to do its reset thing (all accessories off). Took it for a short ride after and all seems fine. IT's back in the Ctek now to top off the battery but I think I'm pushing it to try and get more than 5 years out of the Ferrari battery so taking to the dealer monday for new Interstate battery and annual service. They will hook up the Ctek indicator eyelet setup while putting the new battery in ( CTEK 56-382 Comfort Indicator Eyelet : Amazon.com : Automotive ). The indicator lets you know the battery status via LED's.

    Thanks again to everyone above again for the help and advice. The 430 is back on the road!
     
  10. vincep99

    vincep99 Formula 3
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    Jun 8, 2009
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    I just put an Interstate (MTP-H6) in mine, works well. Fit was great, had to fiddle a little with the hold-down. Also has the proper vent (but I almost forgot to plug the vent on the other side, luckily I read all the battery threads).

    In answer to your question about a surge protector: not a bad idea but I don't think it is really needed as the charger itself has a voltage regulator.
     

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