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Which Ferrari Looks The Most Dated?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Ken, Feb 6, 2006.

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  1. Prova85

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    Since it's a fairly heavy car that will do 180mph with 380-390hp, it doesn't appear to be an aerodynamic dog. And probably more aerodynamic than you think.
     
  2. opus10583

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    I certainly wasn't trying to convince anyone to my opinion, I merely responded to the OP.

    But I'm not entirely sure appealing to the great unwashed, who couldn't recognize, nor cared to differentiate, a rebodied Corvette from a Daytona Spider and who elevated a cheesy, overblown and self-important crime drama to mythical status, bolsters any case.
     
  3. LW RedTR

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    I originally thought that I would purchase a 328 or 355, depending on what I could afford. I've owned modern Corvettes (2004 C5 Coupe) and Vipers (96 and 2003 verts), and the new Ferraris are at first blush very similar looking.

    Partially for price, and partially because the design is so striking, particularly the out sized rear end, holding the 12 cylinder boxer engine and the radiators, I decided on the Testarossa. I'm glad I did. It IS definitely dated to the Gordon Gecko era, but other than a 246 Dino, there is nothing else "affordable" that has so striking a presence, IMHO. Fun to just look at.
     
  4. Ken

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    To be stable at speed attention has been made to aerodynamics for sure. But my point is that it's a dated concept to have form before function and the trained eye can see that with the TR. Again, I'm not making value judgements! I find the 550 series boring in comparison! But it likely gets more MPH per HP/weight than the 80's car which is the so called modern style of design.

    The cheese graters CAN'T be a good way to slip through the air. It was a solution to a legal issue.

    Ken
     
  5. Gatorrari

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    I was sitting in my car next to a 330 GT 2+2 (the four-light version) recently, and that car definitely looked dated. Also, if you took the Ferrari badging off, most people would not take it to be an F-car. That's certainly not the case with the 328!
     
  6. Bullfighter

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    Iconic is the right word. I was out for dinner up in Walnut Creek, CA (east bay) with a friend and there was a red TR parked up front. You just can't mistake it for any other car.

    So maybe it's "dated" in the positive sense, kind of like a Porsche Speedster looks old but still gets a lot of love.
     
  7. mpatrizio

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    Mondial....

    Followed distantly by the Testarossa.
     
  8. WILLIAM H

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    The 512TR & 512M are faster and handle better than the 550 Maranello

    The reason the radiators were moved behind the doors is bcus in the older BBs drivers complained of the cockpit getting hot bcus the rad was up front

    The TR is definately not a modern aero design but then again its a helll of a lot better looking than a Schmenzo
     
  9. damcgee

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    I think the 348
     
  10. damcgee

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    I think the 348
     
  11. patpong

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    The Testarossa is probably the most revolutionary in design of the modern era supercar design. Two features that stand out was the mechanical layout of the radiators that moved from front to the side like F1 cars, no one had done that in a road car and its rear spoilers ( some may go what rear spoiler, but yes, the TR got one. ) which they use the body part as rear spoiler; rear wheel curve. Don't be surprised if these features will return. They always look for a classic features to use in modern design...

    As far as which Ferrari looks the most dated?, I don't know. I like all Ferraris. I once thought the Mondial was rather dull but then, I saw its spider version... gorgeous.... So, still don't know. but can be certain that... not TR.... just me taste.
     
  12. cavallino33

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    I think the TR looks the most dated, theres not mistaking it for a new car, but there really isn't anything wrong with a car like that looking dated. Its still a very interesting car to look at and almost anyone would recognize a TR.
     
  13. Skindiver

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    If the TR were never seen before and was released today would it look out of place ? Im not so sure. It would probably look like the super car we are all waiting for.
    If a Countach anniversary or Pantera GT5 were released today would they look out of place.. ja definately anachronistic.

    However they are all distinct and impressive examples of the design milieu of their time and prolly represent the last of the real "super cars".

    Only Lamborghini has managed to retain a 70 - 80 's real "super car look" begat of that age to this day.
    Ferrari has lost the plot with its shapeless "escape pod" type blobs.

    Skin.
     
  14. Looney

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    You have got to be kidding right? its like a modern Dino, very femenine and smooth in its design, it really flows and IMO very beautiful.

    the Enzo in 5 years or even some elements of the F430, where the design is not fluid, and has some geometric lines that i beleive will not stand the test of time.

    Take a look at a Countach & Diablo, im sure the Diablo will always look less dated than a Countach, and for that matter I think the Murci may also look dated when it is no longer the current model
     
  15. Huskerbill

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    Any 250. The tailights looks like something out of a bumper car in an 80s carnival ride. But I love them anyway!!

    For a newer car, the 308. You can tell it is classic. Everyone screams "Magnum" which helps most people "date" the car.

    The TR (my all time favorite car) IS easier to pick out of the crowd. Everyone knows what it is. But it looks SO exotic, I think it still passes the test.

    The Countach looks just as "exotic" but the small wheels "date" it. The TR looks like it good have just rolled off the line cause it is THAT "exotic" to this day.
     
  16. zjpj

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    Any 166. Any 212. 375 America #0327AL (ha!). The Modulo. And so on. And so on.

    Kind of silly thread. Anything not currently made looks "dated," by definition. As soon as the next model comes out, the old one is "dated."

    Or do you mean, will a layperson who knows nothing about Ferraris be able to look at it and know it wasn't made last week? Again, I think that applies to almost every Ferrari not made recently.

    Or do you mean "dated" in its negative connotation? Since there's demand for every Ferrari model ever made, obviously some people still find them beautiful.

    Am I missing something here?
     
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    i think the Countach is a magic design like the P4, E type, Cobra its just SO right that it will never be out of date

    Sure the details may date it but the shape is so sensational that it is essentially Timeless
     
  19. Ken

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    It would be applauded or derided as a nostalgia trip to the 1980's. It would definitely look out of place! But as I've said, I wish Ferrari would come up with some original designs for their production cars. Only the Enzo shows a measure of originality for the recent cars, and who can afford that, let alone drive it with regularity.

    I like that Lamboghini did something interesting with the Gallardo. In general, Lamborghini has wrested the "exotic" label from Ferrari and I wish someone at Modena would get mad about that, drop some acid and start sketching!

    Ken
     
  20. opus10583

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    ...Maybe not so much:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90417&highlight=fiorano+lap+time

    Fiorano lap times:
    Ferrari 575M Maranello 1.31.512 ???????????
    Ferrari 550 Maranello 1.32.528
    Ferrari 348 Challenge 1.33.00
    Ferrari 575M Maranello 1.33.00 ??????????
    Ferrari F355 F1 (1997) 1.33.00
    Ferrari F355 (1994) 1.34.00
    Ferrari 550 Maranello (1997) 1.34.00 ???????????
    Ferrari F512M (1995) 1.35.00 ?????????
    Ferrari 512TR (1992) 1.35.00

    As another prominant poster quotes in their signature: You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. (Sen. Patrick Moynihan)
     
  21. J.P.Sarti

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    Its funny how a car goes through different stages, the 275GTB and 250 series no longer look dated but cool and fresh unlike anything on the road, in the 70s I am sure many thought they were dated with the spindly wire wheels and front engine designs as everything new was mid engine then.

    What makes a car look dated is any trend in the styling it may have that ties it to that era, 70s cars with square headlights and huge bulky bumpers, vinyl tops etc.
     
  22. Durpen

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    To me, a dated design isn't necessarily bad, it doesn't mean the car is unattractive. About the only things that make a TR or 348 look old are the side strakes and the tall sidewall tires but only because that was a design element from 20 years ago. Early Ferraris (late 40s-early 60s) look really dated to me. However, I love the looks and character of (most of) the early cars. I think about retro designs like the Plymouth Prowler, Ford GT etc - How about a few retro Ferraris? Imagine a retro version of, say, a 275 Nart Spyder, a 275 LM, a 250 SWB, a...
     
  23. Ken

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    Lamborghini has "new" Miura on the board. It looks modern but also like a Miura. I hope it gets produced!

    Ken
     

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