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Which ferraris are genuinely daily driveable?

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by noony, May 22, 2004.

  1. noony

    noony F1 Veteran

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    My dad keeps trying to talk himself out of a 355 because he doesn't believe it is daily driveable, and doesn't really want a car that will sit in the garage 6 out of 7 days.

    So, which ferraris are daily driveable? 550 is the obvious choice, but it's too long for the garage. First choice cars are 360, 355, and 512TR/M, all manual.

    Thanks, we don't want another porsche now do we!
     
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  3. steve f

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    THE 355 IS THE BEST DAILY DRIVEABLE ONE ON YOUR LIST
     
  4. 360CS

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    The 360 and 355 are very usable cars, I would say as useable as any porker.......Perhaps yr poor old Dad really likes his Silver bullet..

    Its a drastic mind change in stepping out of the Porker and into a real driving machine.....
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  5. Father Davey S1

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    I have a 456. I don't drive it every day but it would make an ideal daily drive. Dare I say that it is a little less flashy than the the two seater but a lot more practical. Plenty of luggage space, four up if required and blstering pace. It is only recognised by those who appreciate its form and I have even parked it in Sainsbury's car park!!. They are expensive to maintain but decent ones are now a lot less than their last £170k list and can be had for £40 -50k for a decent one

    Paul
     
  6. Robertb

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    I reckon the 355 is a very usable car; My father concurs with me on this.

    It is surprisingly refined on a long trip. I'd have no problem with using mine regularly, but it will cost lots to run compared to the 911. But then any Ferrari will.

    Has your pa tried a 355 yet?
     
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  8. noony

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    Father Davey S1; I'm afraid a 456 is too long for the garage aswell. The running costs are quite scary also, even more so than a TR or 550.

    Robert, he had a ride in Tony's ;)
     
  9. Doody

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    the problem with a 355 daily driver is that the thing is pure flash. very non-subtle car. i couldn't drive mine ANYWHERE without attention. the 550 on the other hand, length notwithstanding, is much less loud (it's black too, instead of yellow - that's something).

    also, if you're gonna go 355, avoid the spider for daily driving - the seats were, imo, so compromised to fit the folding roof that they aren't that great. the GTB/GTS seats are WAY nicer than the Spider chairs.

    doody.
     
  10. ric355

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    I think the experience of driving something like a 355 daily will be very different to what your dad is used to, and may not weigh up as a daily driver in a comparative sense. For example, I doubt his 911 has to be shifted straight from first to third until the gearbox oil has warmed up, like a 355 does.

    It's really a question of what you are willing to put up with, or put another way, what experience you are looking for. I would say that if you are looking for something that can get you from A to B with the minimum of fuss and go like a rocket when needed, then you're probably not really looking for a Ferrari - not a 355 at least. You're probably more in 911 or Impreza(type) territory. There is the 456/550 but you've ruled those out already.

    There are a few reasons why I don't use my 355 as a daily driver;

    1. The dimensions dont suit town car parks etc, nor does its relative rarity.
    2. It isn't all that practical for shopping etc.
    3. I gain a higher level of enjoyment by limiting my use of it.

    The third point is key for me. I used to drive a TVR Chimaera as my only car. The costs to run were similar to the 355, and it was less civilized on long journeys than the 355, but I still drove it daily for two years. This may sound weird, but I got used to it so much it felt less special to drive over time.

    After a couple of years I decided to get another car and use the TVR as a toy only. Almost immediately, I found that driving the TVR less actually heightened my enjoyment when I did drive it. I later swapped the TVR for the Ferrari and continued with two cars for the same reason. When you don't use the car daily, the ownership experience is very different - it stays special rather than becoming run of the mill. That's what owning a Ferrari is about for me. I'm posting a bit late tonight because I've only just come back from giving my 355 a bit of a spanking....

    I bought my 355 to drive it, and I use it several times per week not just at weekends. To own it as a second car means you have to find the time to drive it. That's not a problem for me; it may be for some. While Ferrari's can certainly be used as daily drivers, I don't personally think that is the best way to own one. It isn't for me anyway.

    That probably isn't what you want to hear, but that's my take. I would suggest that the newer the model, the more likely its suitability for a daily driver. I haven't driven them all so that is just a supposition.

    Richard.
     
  11. noony

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    Good points there. It wouldn't get parked in car parks much, or used for any shopping(!).

    So the 355 sounds like it is a ''nice day daily driver'' and weekend blaster. One option is to sell one mercedes, use the porsche as a winter/rainy day driver and have a 355 for fun. But we would have to wait a little longer for prices to get down nearer the £40k mark if we were to do that.

    Still if anybody has a RHD red/crema GTB or GTS manual for sale @ £40-£45k at the moment I'm all ears!

    Now let's go and watch the grand prix!
     
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  13. Robertb

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    There is also a colour-sensitivity angle here- I find my silver 355 attracts less attention than my red 328.

    Tony's car is de-catted and Tubi'd so would have no doubt sounded spectacular, but your pa may have found it loud. With a factory exhaust, the engine is relatively muted at cruise and when trundling about in the traffic.

    IMO less road noise than a 996 too, and a better ride.

    Robert.
     
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    Not sure I would consider a 512TR/M a "daily driver"....
     
  15. noony

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    Me neither....

    Thanks Robert, but also don't you want a tubi or something with stronger manifolds, plus getting rid of the cats means they can't go wrong?
     
  16. Robertb

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    I've been informed that de-catting the car reduces the engine temp, hence reducing the likelihood of manifold failure.

    I've also been told (by verdis) that a change in manifold design makes manifold failure in later cars comparitively unlikely.

    IMO fitting a Tubi primarily liberates a better noise, which is why I want one! It also makes the engine freer breathing. De-catting it takes it all a stage further.

    I'd be happy to use my 355 in any weather, provided I could be sure of its security when it was unattended. This is the critical difference to its usability compared to a 911.
     
  17. paulnwgb

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    I drive my 360 really regularly, in all weathers and to pretty much everywhere - it is much better than I thought it would be in that regard - I've covered 8,000 miles in 6 months and I haven't even been through a summer yet.

    It's seriously that good that I cannot stop myself. The depreciation will probably end up making me throw myself off a bridge somewhere, but I just cannot stop driving this car every day. Dare I say it - it's faultless.

    I find it staggeringly driveable day to day and I still find it very enjoyable and still a special experience, perhaps that will wane over time, but it hasn't one bit over the last 6 months.

    The build quality of the spider is fantastic - it's easy to forget you're driving a convertible when the top's up.

    I have done London > Edinburgh and back in one day, I was amazed to get out and find that I was no more fatigued/achy than doing the same trip in my bmw - and it's tubi'd.

    That said, I wouldn't like to be in the situation of just having the 360 - just not practical enough. But work > back, bit of shopping - no problem. But I'd never park it in a public car park. Not unless I could see it.

    Can't say about earlier Ferrari's as this is my first - I've never driven any other Ferrari.

    I just hope my financial status remains as good as it is now until the day I die, because whilst picking up my Ferrari was one of the most enjoyable days of my life to date, if the day ever comes when I have to say goodbye, I'd be bloody gutted. Distraught. And probably very bored. **** - those guys really know how to build a sports car.

    My 2p's worth :)

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  18. noony

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    Thanks Paul-I know full well it is tubi'd, we were behind you thru a tunnel at the maranellos meet. Maybe sell the porsche and get a 360 in a more subdued colour to use everyday.....it wouldn't get parked in any public carparks, and mum does the shopping in her hairdresser-mobile!
     

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