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Which would be a better choice, miles or year?

Discussion in '360/430' started by mrpcar, Jun 28, 2007.

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  1. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    Assuming both car are identical in color and same asking price and condition

    Car A: 11k miles, 30k service done MY 2000
    Car B: 31k miles, 30k service done MY2002

    TIA
     
  2. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

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    I personally would buy the newer car. However if you look at 355 prices they now are all about mileage and less about year. The Ferrari market is IMO way too obsessive about miles.

    Car A is the "typical" ferrari. 1.5K to 2K miles a year.
    Car B is still only 6K a year for 5 years - half "average" mileage.

    My angle would be to bargain hard on the higher mileage car, there will be less buyers for it.
     
  3. SoftwareDrone

    SoftwareDrone F1 Veteran
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    +1.
     
  4. dsevo

    dsevo Formula Junior

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    They're both gonna be good cars, so just go over each with a fine tooth comb and go for the best one.
     
  5. dsevo

    dsevo Formula Junior

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    I would also find out which one has a clutch that is in better shape (if F1), because that can be quite costly. I would guess that they both have about 50% clutch.
     
  6. furious_ferrari

    furious_ferrari F1 Rookie

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    Im just curious...why would you do the 30k service at only 11k?
     
  7. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    Well because the car is 6 years old? Is either 5 years or 30k miles, right?
     
  8. duskybird

    duskybird F1 World Champ
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    Yes you are.
     
  9. furious_ferrari

    furious_ferrari F1 Rookie

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    Oh ok. Thank you.
     
  10. marksp

    marksp Formula Junior

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    Having owned a MY02 (built in Dec. 2002) that I had the pleasure of 18K miles, my observation is that lot's of "issues" were identified and resolved by the 4th year of production. Suggestion - ask your local Ferrari service manager to inspect both cars if possible.
     
  11. Mark from Ork

    Mark from Ork Formula Junior

    May 29, 2007
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    I almost would say 'wait'. If you can anyways. Because soon enough you'll be able to get the later model year (with less bugs and problems) with the low miles for a lower price.

    I was looking intently at lower priced Gallardo's as all the 2004's with any miles on them are going for as low as low 130's now!

    Problem is those cars are FULL of all kinds of problems being 2004's, and you end up paying more in the long run due to these problems, miles or not. So I'm going to wait until I can a 2006 , miles or not, for a decent price.

    I've done a lot of research on the 360's lately including talking to race drivers who have raced for Ferrari, and they almost unanimously crap on the F1 transmission cars in the earlier 2000's model years. So based on that, buy a stick shift, as if I get one I am definitely going that route.
     
  12. marksp

    marksp Formula Junior

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    adding to my previous post, my former '02 was a 360 F1 and as I said, absolutely rock solid car. Lot's of people have lot's of opinions. FWIW, very few have actually owned and driven a 360 F1 for 18K+ miles.
     
  13. carcommander

    carcommander Formula 3

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    I don't think you get enough discount for buying a high mileage Ferrari. Also it will be harder to sell and you will have to take less for it when you sell it. Buy the cleanest lowest mileage best car you can afford. I have a 6500 mile 2000 model 360 and it is like owning a new one. It runs great and has almost no wear on anything.
     
  14. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    What about a car with "multiple" like 5+ owners in 7 years? Is that something to avoid for sake of resale.
     
  15. carcommander

    carcommander Formula 3

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    Alright Robin, what's the next one, what if Paris Hilton threw up in it?
     
  16. hamdog

    hamdog Formula Junior

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    Reselling a high mileage would be a challenge. I would stick with the 2000.
     
  17. mashoutposse

    mashoutposse Formula Junior

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    It all depends on why you're getting the car. If you intend to drive the wheels off of it resale be damned (as all mass produced Ferraris should be driven IMO) then the higher mileaged newer car is definitely the better bet. You will have also have a strong position from which to negotiate.
     
  18. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    I plan to keep the 360 for at least 10 years and will try very hard to keep it under 3k miles / year
     
  19. cig1

    cig1 F1 Rookie

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    Why will you try to keep it under 3k miles per year for ten years?

    gs
     
  20. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    What's wrong with that logic?

    I am guessing I should keep the 360 for at least ten years.... And isn't everyone putting only like 1k miles on their Ferraris? If the mileage doesn't effect the resale as much I would probably put 5k miles / year on that car/ :)
     
  21. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

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    The one point no one has touched on is whether or not the cars are manual shift or F1. If it's an F1 car then the 2002 will be better than the 2000 in terms of the F1 system. Ferrari did some software upgrades in 2001/2002 for better/faster shifting.

    Other than the F1 issue (which is not a big deal) I would take the 2000 with less miles over the one with 31k miles. Ferraris are so mileage sensitive in this country that it's ridiculous. 10k miles from now car A will have 21k miles and car B will have 41k miles. You'll lose 90% of the potential future buyers because of mileage alone.
     
  22. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    Well... I think by now everyone on this board knows that I am looking for a manual
     

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