While I LOVE the CS, I think it's for sale...

the Carrera GT's power (open top and manual shift) just leaves me jaded when I drive the CS again. Don't know if anyone is interested, but it's 4 months old (1200 miles), is titanium with tan leather (no stripe), and located in S. Cal. I just remember when i was looking for one, everyone here seemed really pissed at the guy when they thought he didn't offer it here first. I paid $206 (+$1k clear bra) and that's what I'm willing to sell it for. There are some pictures here (pages 9 - 11):

http://www.986host.com/gallery/benkea?&page=9

 

Thanks Sam

 

Oddly enough, I like most everything about the Stradale better except for power, open top, and manual shift. The Stradale feels smaller even though they are both exactly 74" from the outside of rear tire to outside of rear tire, and the Stradale is less than 6" shorter. But it feels very much smaller and more go kart like. The feel and communication seems better on the Stradale including the carbon brakes which I like better than the CGT's ceramics. The sound from the Stradale is also better IMO as are the looks. And, the Stradale is much more comfortable as the cabin is much more open. Despite the cars being the same width, there is a lot more room in the Stradale. The side sills and doors are fat on the CGT and together with the center console a lot of interior space is taken up. The Stradale is simply the best drive I've ever experienced. The CGT does have a ton more lateral grip though for sure and the 265/335 tires probably have a lot to do with it. As far as day to day drivability goes, the Stradale is probably a bit better because of the ride height difference though they are both similarly useful. I have to back the CGT into my garage (where it clears the front of the car by appx 1/4") because it would bottom out if driven in front first.

 

I stalled the car once on each of the first three or so days I drove it (primarily up my driveway from the garage), and then skipped a few days of stalling, and then maybe once more, and now not at all. Yesterday, I got stuck in bumper to bumper highway traffic in it and also experience many dead stop incline take offs with cars right behind me on a near daily basis. I'm confident with it now to the point that I "think" about it only in isolated conditions (ie: inclines with cars behind me). Other than that, it's fairly subconcious now.

 

Not unless it's a CS. I'd thought about maybe getting a 430 Spider but now that I have the CGT, I can't imagine doing that. The CGT is a much much better drive than the 360 non-CS. The CS is in a world of it's own and the regular 360 bores me (though moving the torque up to 343 ala the 430 would go a long way toward fixing that). The race car feel and experience of the CS is not going to be reproduced in the 430 unless it too is a CS model. Heck, a large amount of the CS is going into the 430 - except for the race car experience that comes from removing sound deadening material, carpet, etc.

FWIW, the CS may have felt more sluggish than before because I had a friend in the passenger seat that was appx 200 lbs. It's amazing how much diff it makes on a car with so little torque. I'll try it again soon by myself again.

 

Yep, that was me. I drove a friends CGT and hated the clutch. Interestingly the car had 4k miles on it when I drove it and the second owner after him (shortly after I drove it) had to replace the clutch (Porsche paid). So, it could very well have been crapped out when I drove it too.

 

That's cause I scare ya more in the CGT It takes a week in the Stradale to build the kinds of speed the CGT achieves in 10 seconds (in any gear from any speed) - darn near 30%! faster to 100 and the margin just swells the larger the speed (125 comes in about 15 seconds in the CS vs. 10 in the CGT!). The difference between the CS and the CGT in terms of acceleration is kinda like the diff between a Ford Mustang GT and a 360 which I think most people would be able to feel. The CS is very fast, but the CGT is I N S A N E L Y so. The CS is on par with a GT3 and yesterday I pulled from 100 to ? (several times) on two of my friends each in GT3s and literally walked away like they weren't even trying (they were and I was the only one with a passenger!).

I'm looking very forward in riding in one of the first 430s around here (yours)!

 

well i ordered it a year ago july and the dealer wouldn't give back the $50k deposit so i was going to be out $50k either way. then again, you couldn't buy a CGT for $50k under if I spotted you $25k on it. none of those "10 deep" ("for sale") in autoweek are buyable anywhere near $400k (yet). hell, they won't even turn loose of the one with $150k in repairs for that (yet).

merry christmas watt. hopefully we can get together at the track this year, eh?

 

The F1 gets quite boring in town (ie: when you aren't pushing the car).