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White 365 Spider California in Naples

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  1. BJK

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    or just 365 Cali :cool: :D

    "California" - 5 syllable word >>> NO BUENO :p
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  2. mikesufka

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    Wow - what a spot !!! Super cool.

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  3. SCantera

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    That is correct it's 13th Ave S. off of 3rd St. Just last year I sold my Naples home a block away from that picture. Lived in Old Naples for 20 years before moving on to the mountains and St Pete.

    Although the Cali was shown at the 18th Annual Cars on 5th the first two years the show was held on 3rd St. We had to move it to 5th Ave when it grew too big for 3rd. In the early years we were able to get a lot more vintage cars.....275s, Daytonas, 330s etc. Not so many in the show now. Glad the owner showed his 250 SII Cab and the Cali. Also a beautiful 250 GTO was in the Scuderia section next to the Cali.
     
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  4. ArtS

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    I still have a soft spot for these. In my teens and 20s I lived a block away from Don Grove. He daily drove 9935 for at least 10 years - put 80,000 miles on it - snow tires in winter, modified PerTronix ignition for easier tuning and reliability. Although he wasn't daily driving it when I knew him, he still drove it periodically. He inspired me to get mine (a 330GT).

    I think he loaned out his fog lights so someone could get theirs fixed then had a tough time getting his parts back.

    Big but elegant car.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
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  5. sgtpeper

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    My father owned one of these in the early 80s. I believe chassis 9701. He too had issues with the pop ups but did get them working. It is one of my all time favorite cars.
     

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  6. Marcel Massini

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    09701 is a 275 GTB/4.
    Not a 365 California.
    You probably mean 09801 of Bernard Plous (1977).

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  7. sgtpeper

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    Maybe it was 9801? It's the car shown in the article.
     
  8. sgtpeper

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    My dad's name was Bernie Plous. Allan Rabinof was his friend but never actually owned the car. No idea why it shows his name on the ownership. I have pictures of the car from the day he bought it. He bought it in Florida where the previous owner owned a boat company and had painted it white with like a thick boat paint. My dad drove it across the everglades and had it trucked back to Chicago (I have pictures of it being unloaded at his store). He then had it stripped and painted and bought new knock off wheels for it.

    For the flip up lights he used a part from an old Triumph to make the lights work again.

    During his divorce from my mother he had to give up the car. It was a huge regret for him and he talked about the car all the time. I have a photo somewhere of me as a baby in the back seat in a car seat.

    Happy to pull other photos if anyone wants to see another one in the wild - in the 80s :)
     
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  9. sgtpeper

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  10. BJK

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  12. Marcel Massini

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    #38 Marcel Massini, Feb 22, 2022
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    09801:
    Original exterior color: Giallo Solare 13478 M. That is yellow. See photo below.
    29 May 1967 sold new by Chinetti to first owner Jan de Vroom, who kept it for a while at his Villa San Lorenzo in Cannes, South of France, on U.S. license plates "NART 2". At the same time De Vroom also owned the famous 365 Tre Posti #8971.
    1968 traded De Vroom 09801 back to Chinetti who then sold it to Dr. Allen Rabinoff in Chicago.
    Later on to Bernard Plous.
    May 1979 Rabinoff advertised 09801 in Hemming Motor News with an asking price of US$ 58'500.
    Rabinoff sold 09801 to Joe Marchetti's Int'l Autos Ltd. in Chicago, and Joe re-sold 09801 to Wisconin.
    2 February 1983 Marchetti got it back and sold it to Stevenson in Macon/GA.
    30 August 1984 Stevenson sold it to FAF Motorcars in Tucker/GA.
    March 1985 FAF sold it to Albrecht G. Guggisberg's Oldtimer Garage Ltd. in Switzerland.
    They re-sold it to Bob Lee who had it restored by Allegretti in Modena and mechanicals done by Diena & Silingardi's Sport Auto in Modena. I took pix of 09801 back then.

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  13. sgtpeper

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    That sounds more like it. Although my dad owned the car into the 80s. I think they BOUGHT the car in 1979 as it was just before he met my mother and they sold the car when I was a toddler (I was born in October of 1981). The color was a shade of read originally we were told? I guess it was yellow? When he bought it, it was white. I'll find a photo. It was boat paint to keep the car from rusting. He also only paid 10k for the car.
     
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  16. David Grant

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    There is one in the Crawford Auto and Aviation Museum in Cleveland, Ohio. It was there in 1993. There is also a 365 California Spyder in the Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar, California that Jack purchased from Thomas Barrett in 1981. That one was perfectly original in light metallic blue from San Diego. It is now Ferrari red.
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  17. Marcel Massini

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    #43 Marcel Massini, Feb 23, 2022
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    The car in the Crawford Auto & Aviation Museum is 9447 (3rd one built).
    The Nethercutt car is 10077 (11th built).
    See very detailed 8-page color article with all information about all fourteen 365 California Spider in the Ferrari Club of America magazine "Prancing Horse", issue #93 (4th quarter) of 1989.

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  18. slm

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    Image Unavailable, Please Login Had coffee this morning with the owner. He has been driving it this week. Lovely car and very nice condition for an older restoration. Owner is a great guy. He knows about this thread. I am working on getting him set up on Fchat- hopefully he will chime in soon.

    @Smiles, he said he would love to show it to you some time.
     
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  19. SCantera

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    He is a really nice guy.

    I wonder whether he prefers to drive this 365 or his 250 cab? Both were on display at Cars on 5th. Gorgeous examples.

    I should have asked him but was so star struck by the Cali that my brain was scrambled. Very unique Ferrari.
     
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  20. slm

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    We’ve talked about that a bit. I think he enjoys driving them both. I think the driving experiences are a bit different. However, he saw his first 67 spider when he finished college and has always listed over that car. It really is a unicorn and a holy grail. Both cars are very special.

    He is such a gentleman. I have enjoyed getting to know him. Your name came up today in a very positive way. I am working to get him fully registered here and he will be commenting on this site in the near future.
     
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  21. Tim Weaver

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    As the owner of the car I would like to thank everyone for the kind comments. My 250 PF Cab is more”raw.” The engine sound is brassier. The 365 Cal Spyder has a heavier feel, with much more engine torque. I rotate my driving of the cars. My love of the 365 goes back to my college days at Miami of Ohio, where an alum drove one to Homecoming. As stated, I do drive the cars around Naples and will ship one of them to N Michigan where the driving experience around Petoskey and Harbor Springs is like therapy.
     
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  22. Marcel Massini

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    Welcome to Ferrarichat, Mr. Weaver, and please enjoy the 365 Cal and others in excellent health.

    Marcel Massini
     
  23. Smiles

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    Welcome!

    Post more often. We need more classic Ferrari content!

    Matt
     
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  24. stevenwk

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    As long as you're up there, get on US 2 and head west from the Mackinac Bridge to Marquette along Lake Michigan and Superior. Heaven.
     

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