Who can identify this photo ???

i didn't mean to imply that the 208 had anything to do with the dainas..those were fiat 1400 based, an entirely different animal...what i noticed was the flat hood with the shallow scoop; much in evidence in early italian coachwork particularly stab. farina ....actually a late veedub karmann-ghia still retains the lines of early ghia bodied ferraris...and then theres zagato...

 

There is no way that windscreen frame is even remotely similar ...

An Elan has to be discounted as I said earlier.
Pete

 

I concur and there is also a hood scoop in this photo that is not on the Elan.

 

- what about an HRG Aerodynamic (produced in the early '50's in UK) or an Arnolt MG or maybe a J2X Allard or a small block bondo chevy special?

 

I think that the Miltonian nailed it and that further discussion is superfluous. The shape of the windscreen, hood (bonnet) scoop, pop-up headlights, side vent, etc. all fit. I'm wondering which carrozzeria created it (Zagato, maybe?) and if the barn car could be the very same one that's in the old photo.

"Otto Vu" Fiats are worth a fortune today, and the Siata would be no exception.

Look at the top car in this old ad...
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Side by side.
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Notwithstanding the horrible bondo job, that's gotta be it. Even down to the way the little turn signal lights are angled sideways.

 

what does a fiat 8V go for these days? you said a fortune but i don't know what isn't when it comes to early italian cars and now even later ones.

 

These cars aren't in Portugal are they?

 

That car would be close to a half million today restored to Pebble Beach quality.

 

I was thinking the same thing. But that recent BIG find was locked away in a huge dark building. Who knows. That was amazing.

 

Said the Doctor:

"That car would be close to a half million today restored to Pebble Beach quality."

Stu, I think a 98 point Siata CS coupe today would bring more like $600K, possibly more if it had good period racing history.
Anton

 

"Attached find another photo from the collection. Could this be an Aston Martin DB2/4 ? I know, the collection contained two of those."

I'd bet large money this car is Italian, most likely a Lancia B20 or possibly a Siata Daina. About 20 years ago I bought a 1952 Siata Daina fastback in Minnesota with the same rear body shape, trunk lid and those vertical Carello license lights. It was Fiat 1400 powered with a 5spd column shift gearbox. IIRC, Peter Zobian owns/owned a very similar car.
Those lights were also used on B20s with similar tail lights to the ones pictured.
Anton

 

This doesn't look like a DB2/4 Aston;its slightly reminiscent of the AC Ace(but with the wrong rear lights) but I do buy the possibility of an Italian connection - Aurelia B20, Cisitalia or OSCA perhaps?

 

the photo looks like a lot of rust on the trunklid....keep in mind even the most prosaic coachbuilt italian cars often had alloy hoods , doors and trunk....

how 'bout a early coachbuilt simca ?

 

I'm not sure, as the highest price I have heard for a Zagato was around $600,000 and I think it would be worth more that the body style shown. Less than 10 years ago, Ray Milo couldn't sell a Zagato for $200,000. Seems like all the "etceterinis" have really gone up in the last 10 years. I understand Raoul San Georgi got something like 400,000 Euros for his Alfa Tipo 256 1939 LeMans REPLICA (but based on real 6c2500 components)!!! Muscle car and Retro-rod prices may be going down, but prices on Italian sports cars are certainly going up...

 

This looks like the collection that was first featured in "Supercar Classics" Magazine about twebty years ago.

Featured quite a few Bugattis and Ferraris and an Aston.

a lot of the cars were stored in a cellar and there were many outside.

Someone with the Mag may post but but it has been emntioned here not too long ago.

 

The French "Rotten Row" collection was shown in Supercar Classics, Autumn 1984 (which I don't have) and December 1987 (which I do have). This is the only Ferrari picture from the second issue.
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Your last two pictures are almost undoubtedly the same car, a Lancia Aurelia B20 GT.

 

Hmmm, I hmmm wish you would not post more pictures from that very sad collection. I also have the 'Cobra in the Barn' book and it's just depressing that chapter.

While I understand not all are into cars and some obviously enjoy depriving others ... why not sell the lot and donate the money to a childrens charity or something ...

I guess by now 80% of that collection would be beyond restoration ... their future would be replicas based on their dug up chassis tags, like that GT40.

That place is a morgue
Pete